Reflux testing

[chele]

Can anyone tell me about the tests their baby went through for reflux. Is it invasive? Time consuming? What are they all about. I have read a little about them but wanted to know other peoples perspective on what it was like for their baby.

[peanut]

I felt and so did the gi that although he has reflux, because hes gaining weight, there are no structual damages so we opted out of invasive testing- although i heard its really not bad (the esphogram and upper gi).

[chele]

So how did you know for sure that was what the problem was? did he take to the medications right away or something? My DD has been on both zantac and prevacid and neither seem to do anything - so maybe she doesn't have reflux? I don't know what to think anymore. She has a majority of the symptoms like excessive spitting up, congestion, burping and swallowing back down, hiccups, she gets hoarse, arches her back etc. She sneezes a lot but I don't know if that is a symptom too or if that means maybe she has an alergy. We tried the Alimentum and she almost ate us out of house and home, but only gained 1lb in a month. Her sleeping is a lot better. Oh I am so frustrated. Being a mom wasn't supposed to be this hard was it? I never knew I could love something that I don't understand soo much.

[peanut]

Hi Chele-it is very hard isnt it. Just trying to have a normal day where you can go out in public is impossible. But based on the symptoms that i described to the pediatrician and pediatric gi and also, i let them hear him eat they were able to confirm that he has reflux and a little bit of colic. As far as the proportion, who knows. But the colic is still going strong as ever but the pain after eating is gone. The prilosec really seems to have been a great drug for the reflux, along with thickening his carnation g.s. He never did well on the hypoallergenic formulas. The gi also had me send in some stool samples to see if there was any microscopic blood which also woulod have indicated the reflux.

Bottom line: if he does have relux and still gaining weight, im learning to deal with it. The alternative is surgery and my dear friend had it which nopw prevents her from throwing up. There is no way i will subject my son to that and would rather deal with the bouts of crying b/c eventually he will outgrow it. Had i known motherhood woould be like this, i cant really say i would have done it, I love him with all my heart and sould but listening to the crying day in and out and commuting now to work an hour each way is awful. I have the dad taking him Friday, Sat and Sunday and returning him on Monday so i am getting quite a break (but im sure i will soon see the difference in child support). How can i deprive this child his dad when it seems he loves him soooo much. I guess im going to have to learn how to be frugal. Good luck -youre in my thoughts.

[chele]

Thanks Peanut, I guess we just keep hanging in there. Congrats on the new job, I wish you the best of luck with it, you deserve the best. i think I will just let my husband deal with the GI this time.

[peanut]

Good idea Chele-I am so tired of dealing with the problems on my own and with my new job, i cant take grayson to his follow up with the gi (ive cancelled 3 times already due to work). So now i told the dad he has to do it since he owns his own practice. I still have trust issues (ie will he tell the gi everything is perfect like the last time?) Ive already warned him i want the prescriptions refilled by the time he gives him back to me. Let your husband step in and help.

[chele]

Have you thought about calling the gi office and telling a nurse what you want them to know for the visit and let her know the dad will be bringing him in but isn't reliable to let the doctor know everything. At least then you have had a chance to have your say. I would say send a note but it doesn't sound like he would give it to the dr.

Today, I am at work(sunday) and my husband is home with my DD. I think he is actually scared. He has been having trouble getting her to calm down, but I am sure when I ask he will say everything went great. I wish I could be a fly on the wall. I love my DH but he doesn't like to take responsiblity with our DD, he wants to be the fun loving guy. And he is but now he can see what I go through when he is out of town.

[peanut]

Good idea. And youre rightr-men always say its great even if its been a rotten time. They are in denial. Im scared about starting work and haviing my little one in daycare and also jealous that his dad can take off any time to see him while im limited. I dont want to be selfish with the visitation but i am still so resentful over everything and dad seems perfectly content and happy as a clam with the way things have worked out. right now im waiting for he and his wife to drop him off and i have so much anxiety on these days. I feel like i can barely make it until i actually have my son back in my arms.

[chele]

I can relate to your anxiety in a way. I am a step-mom, and I get anxious whenever I have to have direct contact with the ex-wife. Not that I should feel inferior to her or anything. She just seems kinda mean, I guess. I just try to kill her with kindness and hold my breath a lot. Beleive me you hold the upper hand in this, as good as he wants you to beleive his life is - his wife is there, and no matter how understanding us women are, we don't like things we can't control. It makes us cranky. And, you are something she can't control and a thorn in her side for the next 18 years.:D

[peanut]

You betcha and im not going anywhere!!! Now her husband has to deal with me on a professionaly level again since i got a job back in the area where he sits as trustee and he gets to hear my cases. It was hysterical when i brought the baby into his hearings and he was looking annoyed trying to find the crying baby only to discover it was his!! I just smiled and waved and interrupted the entire hearing room to see if he made the doctors appointment. At least im trying to get back this way.:D :D :D :D

[mom2]

Hi Chele,
Just read your post and wanted to let you know that my daughter had and ultrasound and an upper Gi done to test for reflux. Neither test was invasive and did not seem to cause her any discomfort. The worst part was that she couldn't eat for quite awhile before the test so she got VERY angry by the time the ultrasound was done and they were ready to do the GI with x-rays. Basically, for the upper GI, they had her drink a small amount of a solution from a bottle while she was laying down and they x-rayed her as she drank to look for reflux. She wound up showing a significant amount of reflux so she was put on Zantac and Reglan. Neither helped and I was concerned about the side effects of the Reglan so she was put on Prilosec and it has worked wonderfully. She has always been on the smallest dosage for her weight and it has been just great. We have increased her dosage once to coincide with her weight gain over time. Good luck to you. Any other questions feel free to ask.
Hey Peanut,
Congrats on the job!!!It's about time something went right for you. Hope Grayson is feeling better. It sounds like he is doing better from your posts. Glad to hear it!

[peanut]

Thanks Mom2-i love it now i just need to find extra time to learn it and get caught up. !!!!!

[chele]

Thanks Mom2, She goes today to the GI with my husband, I wanted to go with and I am actually off today but my husband won't let me go with because I had 22 stitchs put in my foot last night. Slick huh, moral of this story is never stop when you are going thru a revolving door. So since I can barely walk, I don't get to go. I was worried if they recommended an upper
GI, I had heard that the drink that they ingest can be hard on their little systems afterwards. Maybe my husband can just talk the Dr. into trying the prolisec, we tried prevacid, but it doesn't seem to be helping much.

Did your baby show a big change in the spitting up?

[mom2]

Hi Chele,
Sorry to hear about your foot. Ouch!!! Sophie didn't really have any problems with the barium after her GI. The only thing was that it turned her poop a white color so if that happens don't be alarmed. I have heard that it can be constipating but we didn't experience that. The Prilosec didn't seem to make a huge difference in her spitting up. It did help to relieve her fussiness and sleeplessness. I didn't mind doing all of the laundry as long as she was more comfortable!!!! We have noticed a big change in her spitting up since she started solids. She spits up much less now unless the food bothers her stomach, like the peaches! She is just so much more relaxed and happy now. Let us know how things turn out.

[chele]

Well, my husband seemed to do a pretty good job at the Dr. apt yesterday. We don't have to have any tests done the Dr. said he is sure that she has reflux, he just doesn't think it is a servere case because she is still gaining weight fine. She is up to 16.2lbs at 5 1/2 months, which is almost double her birth weight(8.6lbs). She was very happy at the Dr.'s office. The Dr. upped her dose of prevacid so we are going to try that and go back in 3 weeks. So things are looking pretty good. As for me I am out of commission for the next 5 days with my foot. No work, Yeah:puh , but baby has to go to daycare everyday anyway because I have to use crutches, so I can't get around well enough to keep her home, Boo:cry5 .

Peanut, how is everything going? Did the Dad make the apt and go? Did he say everything was great? How is the new job coming along? Keep me updated.:)

[peanut]

Hi Chele-you poor thing, sorry about your foot!!! Im glad your husband is being helpful, what a rarity. Thanks for asking about how everything is going: im pretty much getting up at 4:00 am commuting with baby for an hour, drop off to daycare, get to office by 7:00am, work through lunch but take the one hour to go check on baby, leave by 5:00, get baby by 5:30, home by 7:00, bath , feede, rock-baby to sleep by 8:00 and im up till 11:30 reviewing cases. I love my new job but everything is so brand new to me that its so hard and i cant put in the same kind of hours i did as a single person. The dad got him on Wed night to help me out and is getting him friday and sat night as well-of course dad says he doesnt cry. He did make the follow up but neglected to tell hospital it was a follow up so now we have to wait another 3 weeks since we were put down as a new patient and they cant squeeze us in. Hes such an idiot, He went to the daycare the same time I did and i told him that he needed to come at a different time b/c thats MY time. Im feeling really jealous. Is that normal? Im jealous he has someone to cook and clean for him and that he lives in a home with alot of property and only 15 min from work. All of his time spent with grayson is "fun" time-no wonder my baby is happier with him. I get him for a few lousy hours after hes had such a long day and i have to work on Sat to get up to speed and im not my own boss. Then my free time is spent cleaning. Uggghhh, Enjoy your time off if you can.

[supermum?]

Hi peanut

I was so pleased to read that things are going so well for you - despite the long hours working and travelling. Sounds like dad is starting to pull his weight too. I can understand how you might feel jealous with him getting the good times but there is no way grayson doesnt cry now he is taking him for a weekend. dont even listen if he says that. with my first son my husband didnt help at all and my son would never go to him, let him put him to bed or anything. and i must admit while i hated that he was slack it was nice feeling that my son loved me best. i think its a normal reaction to feel that way when you do all the work. so trust me, grayson will always know that you put in the long hours and comfort him the most when its needed. Good luck juggling work and family. its so much tougher than i ever imagined - but worth it.

[chele]

Peanut, suppermum is right, work and family is a tough juggling act, and it can be unsettling with our little bundles because we feel guilty about wanting to work to get some us time from those bundles. I remember being on maternity leave wishing for the time to pass so I could go back to work. After 2 days I was ready to be an at home, til we had another marathon night and was ready to go back to work again. I totally can relate to the jealousy thing. I have been having a lot of those feelings the last couple of days with my dh because he gets to walk our dd and go to the dr. and he put her to bed last night, which is the first time she EVER let him do it and I almost cried. Yes I want her to love him but don't we always want them to love us more and depend on us more. How evil am I? I don't want her to give him an easy time when putting her to bed. But when I heal up and can walk again and take over, I will resent him because I always do it. See so it is OK to be jealous. It is because we love those little ones so much.
As for the dad only getting the good time, that is true, it is something I remind my DH all the time. He always talks about his 5 year old moving in with us. I tell him of course he likes it better at our house. We have him twice a month for 2 days. We change all plans to include him. In 5 years we have only gotten a babysitter once, that is how much we have catered to this child, which I am fine with. But this kid thinks things are great at our house. I tell my DH that it would be different if he lived with us full time because he would have the realization that he would not have 100% of our attention and he would learn that daddy really does have a temper. Also something to think about. (Can you tell I have not been out talking to people lately - I just keep rattling on and on.) Anyway, when you thinkabout people in your life, and you think about the ones you have fun with and the ones that are more stricter - when things get tough which ones come to mind to depend on. Who do you think more of. My mom was hard and my dad was fun. Now when I need to talk to someone about a problem or want to share something important I call my mom first. Ok I will get down off of my soap box now and let you think blah, blah, blah, hay lady get out of the house a little. Hang in there. I am home for the next 5 days checking the internet about 3 times a day so let me know if you need any of my crazy advice or just need someone to vent to - I am pretty good at reading.:D

[peanut]

Supermum and Chele- Thank you so much for responding back. I never get tired of reading your replies and they always keep me going. The baby is with dad right now again to allow me to work-i swear hes getting him 50/50 but he better not try to modify child support because we have a termination agreement where for the next 1 1/2 years. he has guaranteed my salary if i become unemployed. So he saves 3500 a month with me working!!! And i do want my baby to love me more. I am the one who puts in the hard time, not his worthless dad. I swear when we both arrived at the daycare yesterday at the same time, he was competing with me for the baby's attention. Grayson looked at him and smiled looked at me and smiled, then started wailing when he was looking at me. When i rush t9o see him at lunch-he smiles at first and then just wails. This sets off a chain reaction where the other 3 boys in hisgroup start crying so of course, not all the attention is focused on my son. Then that starts to worry me-that hes notbeing entertained 24/7 but i guess he needs to get used to that. Its just heartbreaking on me when his reaction is to cry and im thinking i just shouldnt check up on him during the day-but then dad does and hes all smiles with dad. And supermom, i do know hes lying about the crying but i do see the difference. I am going to work tomorrow at 6:00 am to try to get caught up but i swear 10 hours wouodnt even bring me up to par because of all the learning i have to do. I have someone whos going to lose his house unless i do an emergency motion which i really dont know how to but have to figure out since the offiuce is so shortstaffed right now. But i had to leave and i havent returned at least 15 of my phone calls-i just dont see how i can raise my son and still work these hours. It means i need more help from dad and i miss him soooooooooo much. How can you two handle doing all the work and not bitching at your husbands?? I guess i was never one to bite my tongue.

I have never been happier career wise and am so grateful for getting this job but my heart is breaking. I was just like you Chele-i couldnt wait to go back to work because of all the work grayson needed and now i think of him constantly. I just want to breakdown and cry for all of the lonelyness i feel (see, i guess you always feel like the grass is greener on the other side). I never thought it would be like this and i dont want to lose the job for not putting in the extra time-which everyone else is but dont have kids. So i feel alittle unsteady about job security but i guess everyone feels like that when theu work for someone else.



I hope you have a speedy recovery Chele- Ill be venting again soon. xoxoxo

[chele]

Thanks, I am actually doing pretty good I think. I can get around a little better now. It is so gross looking. My husband had to take pictures b/c his brother is a lawyer and wants to make sure we have documentation of it in case we need it in the future. It is crazy. I think it is making me cranky, which is funny b/c my mom is here and my dh have been taking pretty good care of me, trying to make sure I don't do too much, and I am sleeping good, and baby too. But boy did I feel cranky today. Even going shopping for an Easter present for my dd didn't calm me down and I love shopping for her, even more than I like shopping for me anymore. People keep telling me I treat her like a doll always dressing her up, but it is so fun.
Don't let the daycare crying stress you too much. Sammi does the same thing and only to me. Everytime I walk in she is crying. It is like she hears my voice or sees me and starts crying. The teachers there always say, "I swear she wasn't crying a minute ago, it is like she senses you and starts crying." When dad comes to get her she is all smiles. I have to pick her up and start talking to her and she will finally calm down. It is goofy.
Work hard but not too hard, remember to take some naps on the weekends. Don't push yourself too much, sometimes the harder we try the harder we make things. Try to relax (easier said than done) and maybe things will seem to come a little more natural.?:confused: I think 40% of our jobs are personality, and you seem to have a great one so I am sure you are doing much better than you think. You are your toughest critic. You are doing great you just don't realize it.
You are funny, I am pretty sure some days my husband wants to be single again. I always hear how I tell him he can't do anything right. It isn't that he doesn't do it right, he just doesn't always think things all the way through which drives my crazy and I go off on my little tangents. Look at my post, I complain all the time, why do you think my dh travels so much. He goes out of town so he doesn't have to listen to me anymore.

Keep chuggin along. :D

[peanut]

Happy Easter !!!!! CHele-where did you injure your foot??? Your brother in law is right-if you can sue you might as well-everyone else does it. I am feeling so sick today-i tried to quit my anti-depressants and sleeping pills cold turkey and im totally having withdrawal sysmtoms-nausea, vomiting, dizziness-but theyre all causing my hair fall out and frankly theres not much left to do a combover. Im waiting for grayson to come back and i swear, i forget what he looks like.,

Im sure your dh travels to make sure he can provide for you and your loved ones!!!! Not to get away from you. Thanks for the encouragement-you also seem like a very nice person-very caring.

I know what you mean about shopping-i was a clothes horse and did nt think twice about spending $400 on a pair of shoes (back in the good old days when i had money) but now, i feel too guilty if i buy myself ANYTHING. I splurged on my panntyhose, because noone makes anti-cellulite like Donna Karan, and i feel guilty about that. Esp since i snagged them in one day. Plus one hose equals about what i allot to my clients for food for a family of 4 (not quite).

I worked 10 straight hours yesterday and i dont think i will ever get caught up. I know that i cant work like this forever-i have spent no time with my son-i havent returned peoples calls-i spent all morning just cleaning.

Enjoy your day!!!!!!! Talk to you soon. Hugs.

[chele]

Happy Easter Peanut, hope yours was good. Mine was wonderful. My mom was up for the weekend which helped. I sliced open the back of my ankle about 1 1/2 to 2 inches up from the heel. It is about 3 1/2 inches long and I have some where between 22 and 35 stitches. I haven't really had the stomach to try and count yet. I am really gracefull. I was walking out of work, actually running for a bus - to catch a train, I hesitated coming out the revolving doors and the door caught up with me and hit the back of my foot, I almost fell down in pain, but managed not to cry, because I was afraid who would see me and I didn't want to be embarassed, as if having the door kick you in the ass as you leave work isn't embarassing.:) Kinda pathetic but it has gotten me out of work for 6 days which I desprately needed because I was getting so burned out, not on my job just on the effort it takes to get ready and get there.(I live in a suburb of Chicago and work in downtown Chicago) Like you it takes an effort to get to work, don't you sometimes feel like you have put in a full day just getting to work, not actually doing any work?

I don't think you forget what Grayson looks like, he is just growing so fast that you are seeing his differences when you see him again. And you will get caught up at work, probably pass right by caught up and into how did I ever think this job was hard.

I better go and help my mom, Sammi is being a little pistle. Have you started solids yet, besides in Grayson's bottle? I am thinking on starting her on veggies this week. She has been eating her oatmeal pretty good, I guess I am the only one that thinks it makes her cranky, oh well. Let me know how your week is going. And I hope you and Grayson have a wonderful first Easter.

[peanut]

Ouch!!!!! Chele-that sounds so painful. Ive been to Chicago and lvoed it-i went there with an architect who i was dating at the time and we visited all of frank lloyd wrights places. I know what you mean-it takes so long to get ready that youre pooped by the time you get there. I m glad you had a nice time with your mom being there. I decided to take 1/2 a day off tomorrow -i have missed my little one so much but now i again remember how much work he is.

Ok-i have tried some veges, applesauce, cookies and he hates everythiing. Once he tastes things he gets this sour look on his face-i try to reintroduce the solids again but he wont take to them.Is he going to be anorexic (besides being a stripper since he hates clothes on him?) Maybe hes trying to watch his figure early on.

Have a great week yourself-are you going back to work anytime soon? Are you going to try to settle with the owner of the buidling you work in??? Im glad that you could take the time off. Take it easy if you go back!!! Speak with you soon.

[Renee22]

Hi Peanut

One mother told me that her son hates home made food becos he started out with bottled ones. He would not even take the home food food even though she put them in the empty bottles. :D

You did not mention whether the food your son hates is homemade or bottled. If it is bottled, then try making your own - otherwise vice versa.;) I gave my DS bottled sweet potatos and I thought it tasted horrible

I am a full-time working mother and of course I miss my DS so much but I am glad to be at work to maintain my sanity.:conf2 My son is difficult to feed and I really am stressed out on the weekends having to handle him on my own. He is being taken care of by my mum-in-law during working hours and I bring him home after work.

[peanut]

Renee-do you have anyone helping you out on the weekends?? Thanks for the reply-its bottled food-i have no idea how to cook!!! Youre probably thjinking this girl has no business being a mom which is probably true. My son has a cold and now im debating whether to go into work on my day off-i certainly cant put him in daycare. What do you do when this happens???? I cant get a nanny at the last minute nor can i afford her anddaycare. Just wondering. My mom doesnot help out anymore-she really doesnt want to be involved. I have no idea what mothers do in this situation.

[chele]

Peanut, you crack me up with your anorexic expeditionist. Is Grayson 4 1/2 months old or older? Sammi is 5 1/2 months old and we had such trouble with cereal (she kept waking up in the middle of the night) but now we were on oatmeal for a good week and today was quite an exciting day for us:) , we tried carrots, and you would have thought it was candy. She loved them. She is soo funny, I think she would have licked out the bowl if I would have given it to her.

I have the same problem as you when Sammi gets sick, I don't really have anyone to watch her. None of my family lives around here and my brother-in-law and his wife work extreme ours beacuase they are lawyers and you know how they work;) . I have been lucky so far, but I don't know what I will do when she get sick and my dh is out of town on business. I will let you know when it happens though or if you come up with a solution let me know.

So are you visiting your parents at all anymore? I remember reading what a difficult time they were giving you.
Gotta to the baby is up. take care Grayson feel better soon.

[peanut]

Chele- Sammi is one month older-Grayson is 4 1/2 months. I didnt go into work today and feel very guilty-i dont know how im now ever going to get caught up!!!! Ill have to try different things for him. Im just still bottle feeding with thickening of it with the rice cereal. I havent tried just oatmeal by itslef-is he too young???

I invited myself over to my moms today-i havent seen her for a few weeks-i know the whole situation is hard on her but she cooked some food for me and sent me p0acking with alot of stuff!!!

Sounds like everyone is in pretty much the same boat. Hes in his swing right now but getting very antsy. Talk to you soon.

p.s. when they get so congested it freaks me out that maybe he wont be able to breathe-i wish a was married to a doctor!

[Renee22]

Hi Peanut

Since Grayson hates the bottle food and you have absolutely no time and don't know how to make baby food, you should just give him brown/white rice cereals (just mix with infant formula and water into a runny paste) - just make sure you read the label to see that it is suitable for 4 months up. Some wheat/oatmeal cereals are for 6 months up (again, read the labels). The cereals are tasty, I am sure he likes it. Forget about bottle food - yucky! :conf4 I always taste everything I give to my 4 1/2 mth old son. he is already 2 weeks into cereals and knows how to swallow now.

Chele/Peanut :

My husband helps with the baby sometimes during the weekends. We have to pay his mother for babysitting as her husband is ill and unable to work and they are a poor family. :cry3 It's very expensive to get babysitters here too.

I guess working mothers have no choice but send their babies to babysitters - my mother died when I was young so I have no choice. My mum-in-law is actually the last person I would send my son to, but given the financial situation, I have no other choice. :rolleyes:

Over here, many people take it for granted that their aged mothers should look after their babies and these grannies are usually overworked and underpaid and exploited. I guess that when we have babies, we must take responsibilty for them and NOT expect other people to look after our children for us.

Since men cannot be trusted to look after and provide for their families, we poor women have to be full time mothers and career women as well.:rolleyes: If you would ask me, I would say it's all the men's fault for not "being capable" or refusing their responsibilities. I am a full-time working woman and also the breadwinner of the family - whatever happened to this world? :cry3

[supermum?]

Hi guys, Happy Easter

I love being able to listen and talk with you Peanut and Chele as it makes me feel that i am not alone. Even though i am a more experienced mum second time around i cannot believe how much hard work it is,. Always trying to be the best mum, best at your job and try and have just a small amount of time for yourself. almost impossible. when i went back to work after Zac, my first, i was a mess. he suffered cronic ear infections, always sick in child care and i found work suffered as i had no sleep and couldnt concentrate. because i was the only one with a child and started a new job where people didnt already know what i was capable of, it was really hard and has taken me 2 years to get to a point where i am respected for my abilities and i think as a mum. this time around i have only been back 4 weeks after 7 months maternity leave and already have had to take 3 days off cause the kids have been sick and i am running on empty with no sleep. but this time around everyone is fine with it because a few have had babies and know how hard it can be, and they know how well i work when i am there. so peanut all i can say is hang in there, try your best to establish yourself but not to the detriment of your health. but also when you feel a bit more comfortable, then ease up a bit so that Grayson doesnt miss out. at least you are doing something that sounds so rewarding and worthwhile, but balance is the key.

as for the food, well my jacob is a nightmare. spits veges straight back out, loves rice cereal with pear or any tin friut but hates the fruit mashed up itself. he is so strong willed it drives me insane. still has tummy pains at 7 1/2 months and because he is always sick, (stomach bugs, colds, blocked nose) wakes through the night. i know that it will eventually get easier but it seems like a long way off. he is crawling everywhere, wants to stand, falls and hits his head constantly and never cries but wont let you hold and cuddle him. he is way too smart for his own good and too strong willed. but its funny because i am not surprised. obviously wasnt meant to have a quiet baby and it sounds like neither were you. if grayson is anything like you he is very smart and already has it worked out how to push your buttons. sounds like child care is going to be great for him. and please dont even think about not visiting. i am sure he stops crying again as soon as you leave. he is just pushing your buttons. maybe with other people around it will give him a chance to learn another way to behave. you could play with him there and i am sure eventually he will stop crying and enjoy your company. it will be so much easier when he is more mobile. sorry about the length of the post today. obviously need to get out more.

[Renee22]

Peanut,

I read that Grayson's frequent crying is driving you up the wall.:cry3 Over in Asia, it's the norm to keep the babies tummy warm to prevent "wind". I suspect that Grayson is crying because his tummy is cold inside.

Have you been feeding him cold milk or cereals? Please try this remedy :-

1) NEVER expose his tummy, always make sure that especially his belly button is covered by clothing (rompers are great).

2) It is the norm for babies in Asia to apply a Chinese medicated oil for babies on their tummies to keep it warm. Apply a few drops directly on his tummy and few drops on your palm; then rub your palms together to warm them and place your warm palms on his tummy. Repeat this a few times. I searched the net and you can order it from this website :

http://www.overseas-chinese.net/online_stores/far_east/fe/fe0202.htm

3) NEVER give the baby anything that is cold. And it's also not advisable to give him raw stuff (uncooked fruits) for the moment (too cold for his tummy). Also, not advisable to give him anything that has been refrigerated.

There was a baby in the same hospital ward with my son recently and that boy was crying nonstop for 2 days from morning to night-drove me bonkers. I gave his parents the medicated oil to apply and on his tummy and he stopped crying!!!

The logic here is when the child's tummy is cold, he feels uncomfortable - keep it warm always and half your battle is over.
:D

[Renee22]

Peanut

You may also try this medicated oil. It's the same as Yu Yee Oil (the eralier one I emailed you) except it's a different brand. Since you are located in California, I thought this Po Sum On Oil would be more convenient for you to get.

http://www.morningstarhealth.com/store/product138.html

Use it the same way as Yu Yee Oil.

:D

[chele]

Hey everyone, how is your day goin? I am being a complete bum and enjoying the unemployed life for a couple more days. I got up with the baby at 5:30am today, and my dh took her to daycare at 7:30, so I went back to bed until 10:00. Can you say bum!!!
Does any one know if it is bad not to give your bby cereal?
My dd did so well on the baby food yesterday and she does this weird, grunt/scream - start to cry thing when I feed her cereal, that kinda scares me. I was thinking I would just put her on veggies and no cereal, but I am not sure yet.
Supermum, was your first bby colicky too? 7 months is a nice maternity leave, but hard with a colicky baby. We only get 6 to 12 weeks leave here. I can only imagin how hard it is to have 2 children, and how much harder when one is crying all the time. They had an Oprah(daytime talk show) a couple of weeks ago where they followed a mom of 2 for 24 hours so everyone could see how difficult it is. I had emailed the Oprah show to see if they would ever do a show on parents with Colic/Reflux babies, but haven't recieved any response back.
Renee, are you originally from Asia? It is neat to see that things seem to be the same everywhere in the world. Men feel their job is done very early in the job. Just joking, I know some guys who do a lot and my dh does help more than a lot of men do. Especially since the fight with the revolving door.
Peanut, becareful with those warming drops, once Grayson finds out there is something out there to keep him warm that isn't clothing you may be in trouble with his stripping career:D Watch he will start doing push-ups anyday now. Not that he is trying to learn to crawl, just working out to bet buff.:puh Here they say at four months you can start on cereal and then I guess when you are comfortable with cereal, you can start on fruits and veggies. We started with veggies first, b/c I was afraid that if we started with fruit she wouldn't like veggies, and since I am not a big veggie eater, I want her to at least eat them at some point in her life. I am hoping she will be more like her daddy, who likes all kinds of veggies. Her big brother too. He is 5 and his favorite food is brocoli, especially mixed into mac and cheese.
Well I better sign off this is gettting a little long. Take care all, and I will be back tomorrow to see what everyone has been up too.

[Renee22]

Hi Chele

Yup, I am from Asia and yes, I think I regret marrying an Asian as well! They think their wives should be like their mothers, serving them hand and foot - they should just go and marry their mothers instead.:D

I know Western men tend to help out more with the housework and feel that it's their responsibility to do so. Asian men still see that the kitchen is where the women belong.:rolleyes: ....unless they are educated in the Western countries. Some men, however, treat their wives like princesses and their mothers like slaves.... whatever it is, it's no fun being the wife of an Chinese-minded Asian man!:cry2 My DS will be looked after by my DH this week as my father-in-law has fever and we're not bringing him over to that house due to the outbreak of SARs in this region....DH is doing fine with DS and even managed to make dinner for me:D , but I expect him to grumble again that this is a woman's job (he refuses to go and get himself a decent job).. blah blah blah........:mad:

[supermum?]

Hi Chele

Enjoy those sleep ins while you can get them you lucky thing (well except for the slashed foot..). Yes my first boy was colic and reflux as well and it took me a while to work it out. both boys seem to have the reflux quite bad and didnt take well to zantac which is interesting because i know on the board most people find it good. seemed to make their stomach pains worse. definately immature stomach and/or bowel for both although my first one was much better after 20 weeks. the 7 month old is an overachiever and still seems to have pains. 2 is quite hard (espescially as they are boys and so full on all the time) although i am so glad for the age gap. the 4 year old is fabulous and will help entertain the baby for me. i just forgot how hard it was without sleep and being a complete control freak, i cant stand not knowing what is wrong when the baby is unsettled etc. yesterday he was at day care and had 3 x 30 minute sleeps, went to bed at 7pm and at 1pm was wide awake for an hour. it kills me. he is such a light sleeper and hates being nursed or rocked so i cant even put him in bed with me like you might usually do and he just siits straight up and tries to crawl around. he doesnt necessarily cry he is just awake. i must admit i even tried to give him a mild sedative and that doesnt even work. i guess it stressed me more now as i have to get up for work early. i was lucky that i got 12 weeks paid leave but had heaps of holidays owing to me so it made up the 7 months. very nice being paid leave. enjoy the rest of your enforced leave - sounds like your husband is doing a good job in your ansence. its funny but sometimes these things are a blessing in disguise as it makes the guys get their act together and actually bond more with their children - and surprisingly they start to enjoy it. try to get him to keep it up when you are up and about.

and i know what you mean about the veges. i dont eat them myself and the 4 year old is really fussy so i was trying really hard to get the baby to like them but he keeps spitting them out. i even just mix them with cereal so they dont taste as strong but he knows...this one is definately sent to test me.
thank god they are so damm cute.

[peanut]

Oh my god-i dont know how to respond to all your guys suggestions!!!! Thank you so much is all i can say and to be honest, i have such little time, i am going to have to save this and go back on the weekend and write down everything. I have no idea what i would do without you. But let me first say, i f you dont want to read this long rambling e-mail, feel free to bypass, I have a short summary at the very bottom that really is pinpointing my dilemma:

Do you know i didnt even look to see where everyone is from? Oh my god-io cant bellieve im speaking all over the world. Ive never used the interent before this site-which -propelled me to learn as i so desperately needed advice.

Real quickly-Renee- what if an american husband is married to an asian wife and they are looking after my kid? I have no idea what her take is except that she blamed me for everything (she is a devout Baptist) and excused his behavior that way. Does your mother in law respond to your baby's needs???? Would you have preferred daycare??

Sorry guys byut i cant stand men at this point-i know i got myself into this by being so frickin gullible but oh my god-who knew??? I had to suction out my little ones nose and send him off to daycare today. I asked about his getting cold and the worker said thats common in daycare-they all get each other sick but not to worry unless he has a fever. I wasnt able to get much done at work because Supermum, im having a hard time getting the secretarys to help me. Im liteally closing my door and crying i am so stressed out. I want to learn and everything is so new and the sec must be having a great time since they tell me im the attorney and should know. Know what????? The receptionist said "hi, im kimari, im clueless." I tried to laugh but it really hurt my feelings. I never feel im above anyone and i literally went chasing the secretARY into the womens bathroom to help me when i had a client sitting there. God-i dont know if i can do this. I have more work to do and i had to have the dad take grayson tonight because he has the cold and i didnt want to cart him home at the end of the day.

I know im going on and on so please excuse me. I guess i just dont know what to expect and not to expect. I am terribly concerned about the daycare; there are 4 little boys in the group and one seems to cry all the time so my baby doesnt get alot of attention. I told the dad to check to see during the week what grayson was doing at unscheduled visits. Whenever i see him, hes awlays on his back, playing with the same mobile-i feel so bad because the other boys are older and are either crawling or crying. Is my son being neglected or is he too young really to do anything????

Also, when the dad went to go pick him up from daycare, the worker had one baby in hands and grayson was crying in the swing and she was manually pushing him. I know noone is going to respond to him like i do but is it ok that hes being left alone like this??? I want to pull him out of daycare immediately and get the nanny in for another month until hes a little older but then the problem comes to the job. Oh god-what do I do???? Can someone tell me if daycare is supposed to me like this?

Another day without my son-Every few days i build up resentment and then I tell the dad I hate him for everything> I know he tries to do the best he can by taking him or checking on him, etc etc but i cant help being filled with anger and hate all the time- and i tell him this and he asks for me just to be civil, and the very next day i have to ask him for his help with him (which he is very happy to do) and ask him to be nice on my hearings with my clients. Very awkward.
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SUMMARY:::::So to make a long story short-what would you guys do about the daycare situation??? To capsulate and give you the canned notes to this incredibly long e-mail, Is it normal to expect these colds and him getting sick all the time form the other kids and that some kids will take more attention at the center than others and at 4 months, my baby just needs to get a little older in order for him to interact more. I sewe the same baby crying all the time and taking the attention and im starting to feel resentful towards him!! How horrible am I.

[peanut]

Supermum:

Looks like you just beat me to the board and I think you and I should both be sleepinjg right now-are you ocd like me???? Definately compusive, obsessive, etc;

Go to Sleep now!!!!!!!!!! Get some much needed rest because we both have to be up in a few hours and i havent even reviewed my notes (to see if anything makes sense now that imn home). My brain is freezing up-i think i did a whole lot better on all of my prescription drugs which i stopped immediately (since theyre making my hair fall out).

Talk to you soon.

[supermum?]

Peanut

You poor sweetheart, what are we going to do with you. First, i am going through the same thing with Jacob in child care he has had stomach bugs and a cold non stop since he started 4 weeks ago. but, as hard as it is, i still think it is a better environment than a nanny as Grayson needs more experiences and he cant always have someone holding him 24/7. i turned up the other day to find jacob in the swing crying and stressed out 'but he never cries that long at home' to which they replied, well he does here. but you know what, its not going to hurt him in the long run. and grayson is the same. it will be so much better when he is mobile but until then, he is getting used to different people and learning to entertain himself not expect you to do it all the time. in terms of playing with the mobile, that sounds reasonable. seeing all the other babies is probably quite entertaining for him also. and with you and dad able to pop in and check on him well that's definately a benefit.

as for the colds, with my first i ended up at a naturopath which i had never been into before but it was the only think that helped boost his immunity and help with all the colds. (because they lead to ear infections) there is not much else you can do for the first year but i still think its the best option. i was also thinking about you last night and how its such a long day for grayson with the drive home and just a suggestion, instead of you working on your day off could the dad have grayson one night a week (that way he has to cope with him being overtired) and you can work late and catch up on work that day and maybe enjoy a day off with grayson on mondays or have him with you on sundays instead. just a suggestion, but maybe you can try and have some fun time yourself.

as for work, the best you can do for the next 6 months is survive. so dont put too much pressure on yourself, do the best you can for your clients but dont beat yourself up. everyday that you get through is success in itself.
so his wife is asian and forgave him huh? i was dying to know the details of this story. i cannot believe that they continue to play happy families after he has a son with someone else.

just try to hang in there and we will keep providing all the support we can.

[Renee22]

Peanut

I can understand the kind of stress you're going through. Is there a care group (like church group) in your area that can help you go thru this? You certainly cannot go thru all these by yourself and definitely should not be dependant on medication.

I hate to say this but many times, we bring trouble upon ourselves by not being wise. You mentioned that Grayson's dad has a wife - did you know this before Grayson came along? If yes, then what is it that you expect from this whole "relationship"? If you have expected nothing back then, don't get upset over the way things are now.

Men are really selfish creatures-he must have been telling his Asian wife that he is "innocent" and that you are the vamp who seduced him etc. and she must have believed him or at least made you think she believes you - some women go to great lengths to protect their husbands' reputation in public but at home, its a different story (which I think is the case). Sometimes, they just prefer to lie to themselves and put the blame on somebody else instead so they feel better. By the way, do they have their own children? You know, it's hard for her too to have come to terms that her husband has a child with another woman. If you were in her shoes.............., would you say that the other woman deserved what she is getting now???

Ignore her-remember that Grayson will be at their place often and you would not want her to "ill-treat" your son in anyway. It's between you and that man.

DAYCARE - it's like that in daycare, even over here. Sicknesses and diseases spread very fast - we had hand mouth & foot disease outbreak a couple of years ago and the government closed ALL the daycare centers for a few weeks to stop the spread. Now, due to the outbreak of SARs, schools and child care centers were also closed for abt 3 weeks. The terrible thing about SARs is that the healthcare workers are the ones getting it-about half of the healthcare workers in one hospital got it and most are in intensive care - 1 doctor and his mother (also doctor) died last week. You cannot expect your son to have undivided attention - accept this if you want to put him there.

I think I would have prefered an experienced nanny for my son-my mom-in-law has somehow lost her babysitting skills. I was terribly upset with her for not giving my DS more milk even though he cried for it. After some time, I tell myself that I cannot afford to get upset over every small thing-just close one eye and keep the other opened.:D

[chele]

Hi Guys,

Peanut, they always say here that daycare is good because your child is going to be exposed to these colds and flus anyway throughout his life, so better to get it out of the way early so when they get to grade school they will have a stronger imune system. Does that help:) ? Sometimes I agree with it, sometimes I think it is all a crock. Is there only one teacher for these four boys? That is the ratio at Sammi's daycare too - 4 babies to 1 teacher, but there are at least 3 full time teachers and then they have high school kids that come in too. I am with supermum on the week night thing with the dad. Have you talked to your dr about going off your meds? Maybe he can change something or smaller doses or something. Don't let yourself get over stressed it isn't worth that either. I tell you I was looking for some meds today. I was so busy today. I had a party, a PITY party that is. My dh was here and the insensitive jerk asked me if I was ok cuz I seemed a little down and I cried. So when he took me to the chiropracter and then he went to pick up persciptions fo dh, he bought me candy to feel better. Goofy day, but feel better now. Anyway, what kinda law do you practice? Just curious?
Supermum, I don't know how you do it. Is it easier the 2nd time around? boy the story you told about 3 x 30 minute naps bed by 7:00 up at one - I thought you were hanging out outside our windows. we had to tell daycare she needs to sleep more during the day - so when she wakes from a nap try giving her the pacifier and see if she will go back to sleep, amazingly she slept 3 x30 min and a 1 1/2 hour nap today and no is helping me type.
well, we have to take a bath now.

[supermum?]

Peanut
just to give you more to think about on the weekend i agree with chele, dont just drop the meds unless the doc OK's it. i have a new found belief in antidepressants after my husband started taking them a few months ago. he is a changed person. there is a history of depression in the family but he never thought himself bad enough. now he is almost a pleasure to be around. and the sreaming babies doesnt stress him out nearly as much which means he is even helpful occassionally. so i would suggest that you might switch meds but you may be better off with them until you get over the stress of new job etc. as for sleeping, well hopefully when you arent as stressed you will sleep better anyway. and you can always invest in a great wig if the hair issue continues....
chele, yes the second is easier in that life isnt a complete blurr like it was the first time round. and first time i couldnt stand to let him cry a minute but now i guess i know that its not going to kill him. but this baby is harder. i have heard from a friend that her brother in law was like jacob, didnt need much sleep and really full on. he is now a very successful lawyer and was a very bright child. lets hope that's our reason and not that he is just a hyperactive kid.

[chele]

Hi, back real quick.
Renee that is really interesting about the closing of daycares. I can't think they would ever do that here. People here would sue the government for the loss of wages because they had to stay home. Who cares that it is for the good of society.
Peanut, some other thoughts on Daycare - does your daycare let you know how Grayson's day went? As in eating, sleeping, etc. Always ask questions, never be afraid to ask a question. Try to get to know the teachers on a more personal level. Do they have rules on leaving a baby in one spot for too long? At my Dh daycare they have a 20 minute rule where a baby isn't to be left in one place for more than 20 minutes.
Supermum, Jacob will be wonderful and very successful, look at who his mom is.

[Renee22]

I don't think the government had a choice in closing the daycare centers and schools - they had to do it to contain the spread of infectious diseases. If they didn't we'll complain that the govt is not doing anything.;)

The govt also closed a huge one and only wholesale vegetable market because 3 of the workers there contracted SARs. ALL the workers and their families there are now being quarantined for 10 days - all ordered to stay at home - and we have the healthcare workers calling them 5 times a day to make sure they don't step out of the house!!! They also have take their temperatures at least 5 times a day to make sure they don't have a fever (the first sign of SARs). Now, we're facing a vegetable shortage because the supermarts are unable to meet the demand!!:D :D :D As of now, we have a few thousand people under quarantine.

The situation is worse in Hong Kong - in one apartment block alone, about 300 people contracted SARs and more than 10 has died already. See how this thing spreads... it's scary. The SARs affected countries are Hong Kong, China, Canada, Singapore.:eek: :eek:

[chele]

That is so scary.

[peanut]

Thanks you three-I had to leave work and go pick him up from daycare-he was too sick and the other boy yesterday was sent home. The dad does take him on the weekends and was taking him once during the weeik but things are going to change and im going to set limits.

First off, Renee-i was totally stupid-he was separated from his wife and told me he would be with me. Yes, i was stupid for believing him and it must be terrible on his wife. I know the only way she deals with it is to blame it on me and apparently is very quiet at home-keeps everything to herslef. She is very educated (a nurse) and answered his personal ad "looking for a subservient woman" so if that tells you aything. But it is what it is -------Where in Asia do you live??? That is teribly scary aabout the sars- I hdid hear on the news that is was the doctor and nurses suffering.

Chele and Supermum-after having to leavework and miss it (im already backlogged and had tgo cancel people twice now and its only my second week) i cant afford to miss work again. I was called to come get him and i took him to the doctor. He has an eqar infection and cold and is now on antibiotics. Im pulling him out daycare until hes a little older and can crawl and entertain himself and in the meantime, use the nanny. Shes coming tomorrow thankfully. the dad was agreeable to this because he felt guilty he couldnt help today (he had his own hearings), Men---!!!!

Chele-hope the candy was good. Brush well-its no fun having to go to the doctors with a colicky child-trust me, i know.

Ill have to figure out when i can see the doc (my doc) -im figuring since i told them at work from now one i have to leave at 5:00 p.m. (in order to get back to the nanny) i will have to work 6 days to accomodate the lag right now. I did go back on just the antidepressants. They knew i was a mom when they hired me-ill never be partner (have to work way more hours) but i really dont care. They hardly pay me anything right now. I hoping for raises later. Chele-im a bankruptcy lawyer-not the kind you want to have (well, i guess anytime you have to see a lawyer its not good). Hope your foot is doing better.

I better get back to my son. I am so tired. I hope to god i can find a balance.

Thanks for the continued support.

[Renee22]

Peanut

I agree that Grayson is probably too young for daycare. U should demand his dad to fork out 100% of the nanny's fees. Try not to be "overwhelmed" with too many things, I know first time mothers get upset over every small thing that happens to their babies. LIke the way daycare centre handles babies, sometimes, we have no choice but to accept things. We cannot expect everything to be the way we want. I am sure that Grayson's dad will agree to forking out his nanny's fees - all you have to do is ASK!!!! If you don't ask, you'll never know.:) He definitely can afford it!


Never trust men, they want best of all the worlds, want their wives and girlfriends as well. I really pity his wife-it seems she has totally given up on him as she keeps to herself. She must be crying inside her and have to face the shame of her husband having a child with another woman while still married to her!:cry3 Her only fault is being blind to marry him!:D See, he victimized 2 women already.

SARs just killed one of our top surgeons 2 days ago - he was the only son of our top forensic expert. He contracted SARs when he looked after 2 SARs patients. There is an uproar here over a certain irresponsible family of 8 who visited their neighbourhood clinic for fever - the doc correctly diagnosed them as having SARs - gave them surgical masks to wear and ushered them to wait outside the clinic while he called for the special ambulance to bring them to hospital - and told them to wait there.

When the doc came out again a few minutes later, to his horror, he found that the family of 8 was gone - they have wandered to a nearby food center and visited a medical shop! When the govt came to know this, they immediately shut down the food centre for 10 days and all its tenants and staff and families are ordered home quaratine for 10 days - the food centre is being disinfected as well. 2 staff of the medical shop (and families) who came in contact with this family were also given home quarantine orders for 10 days!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

120 people treated & discharged, 53 in hospital (17 critical), 19 dead, and abt 2,500 under home quarantine! :rolleyes:

[mom2]

Hey Peanut,
I have been reading alot of posts but not replying to very many. Even though I am getting more sleep I still don't have much energy. I guess it is going to take awhile to catch up! I know you know what I mean!I can't imagine trying to to work outside the home like you and so many others do. Just taking care of the house and the kids is so exhausting!My husband and I are making huge sacrifices for me to stay at home but I am ok with that.As I said before I have worked in several childcare centers as a teacher and even at the very best ones I still couldn't give the kids as much attention as I would want mine to have!I do miss my job (second grade teacher) but I know that once my kids are older I can always go back. There is such a shortage of teachers and I don't see that getting much better anytime soon. I just wanted to let you know that I am still out here pulling for you and Grayson. Sophie is really doing great now and I really, sincerely hope that day is coming soon for you and your little one. Same goes for everyone else waiting for this period to be over and the happiness and normalcy to begin!Take care.

[chele]

HI,
Peanut, do what makes you feel best and don't question it. You are the mother and you know best, no matter who thinks you don't, they are wrong. No one knows your baby better than you and you know where you feel the most comfortable having him looked after. I think that it is great you have the choice, so many don't. And this is the nanny you had before so you are already comfortable with her/him. Be happy with your decision, you are right. My brother-in-law is a bankrupcy lawyer too. Sorry to hear Grayson is so sick, I have been so lucky so far, the worse we have had (besides colic and reflux) is thrush. knock on wood. We are having some problems lately though. She is waking up everynight at 3 am and won't go back to sleep until I feed her and tonight she was acting all colicky - fussy. I swear I am going to video tape these episodes for the dr.s to see. I don't think the way she acts is normal, but the dr.s alway give me that crazy first time mom look. I mean she has really came into a wonderful personality, smiling most of the time anymore. Sometimes when she gets like she did tonight if you talk to her she smiles while crying. It breaks my heart b/c it seems like she is in pain and I can't do anything to help.
Peanut there was a magazine article I wanted you to read in Working Mothers the February 2003 issue it was Mom vs. Stepmom - Give peace a chance. The only problem is that they don't publish their articles on theinternet. I found it very interesting, being a stepmom, I wish I had the guts to talk to the mom and make friends. I just try to stay out of the way for the most part when it comes to things between my husband and his ex.
Renee, how is your father-in-law? Is he feeling better?
Hi supermum are you sleeping?

[Renee22]

Chele

My father-in-law is still not well and has to go to that SARs designated hospital for an op about a week's time, so we're staying away from them for a while!:eek: :eek: :eek: That hospital is huge and one part of it is blocked off for SARs patients. Unfortunately, SARs has spread to other public hospitals as well and 2 wards plus cancer dept of another hospital had to be closed because they were SARs infected! We are not going near anyone who has visited a hospital!;)

[supermum?]

Hi guys

Peanut, any decision you make and are happy with is the right one. i have been through all the sickness with my first (and already with jacob) and know how hard it is espescially with a new job so it sounds like the nanny is the best for now. maybe you can get her to take grayson to a playgroup or something so he is interacting with other kids. i just know that kids that are used to playing with others learn to entertain themselves better. but hey, you have plenty of time to work on that. you just need to get comfortable with work and take some time out for yourself. from what you have said it sounds like the dad is becomming more supportive so thats a positive step.

Chele, i actually had more than 4 hours sleep last night, couldnt believe it. Jacob didnt wake for a feed until 4am so that was great. by 7 months i know he should be sleeping through and was for a whole week until he got sick. but of course today we have only had 2 x 35minute sleeps and diahrea this afternoon which usually means we are in for an unsettled night again. are you back to work next week? we have had a hokiday today and i am exhausted. trying to keep the kids busy is so tiring that i think i would rather be at work. have a great weekend everyone.

[chele]

Renee, I don't blame you, I would be afraid to leave my house. So is your DH watching the baby while you work? May I ask what you do? I am just being nosey you don't have to tell. I am a mainframe programmer. Not to exciting and kinda geeky but it helps pay the bills. How is the baby doing? Like being home?

Supermum, hang in there, have you heard of a book The NO Cry Solution to Sleep? I don't know who the author is. I have read it and it is pretty good, but to actually invoke the method takes an effort. I rented it from our library, but I am going to go buy it so I can refer back to it. It wants you to log a lot of stuff but it says it is all worth it in the end. I know who has time to read, but I found it to be an easy to read book that was also easy to skim for key points. Just a thought, not trying to be pushy.
Yeah, I go back to work next Wed. as long as the Dr. ok it. We are going on Wed to get the stitches out and then if oked, my dh will drop me off at work. I am sure it won't be a problem, the cut looks to be healing quite well, but it itches like crazy! It will be nice to be a normal person again. I agree with you on the kids exhausting you on your day off. Sometimes it does seem much easier to go to work. The people at work aren't allowed to cry when they don't get their way, well at least for the most part.:D

[supermum?]

Chele, i havent read that particular book but will try to get it. i have read a few different ones most talking about controlled crying. problem is, he doesnt cry. he is just awake. last night he didnt feed till 4am so thats 2 in a row now. i dont actually mind that time because at least then i can get back to sleep and he didnt wake until 6.45am. if he wakes at 5am for a feed that's it we are both wide awake. great to hear your foot is healing nicely. i hope you have enjoyed the break from work. not quite as good as a holiday though. wow a mainframe programmer... my dh is in IT and is usually a CIO or IT manager. he was retrenched a week before i had the baby, got a 3 month contract but it still looking for a job. the market is really dead here at the moment. which is why i am back at work 3 days a week. not that you asked but i work for the government as an investigator looking at breaches of trade practices law. pretty boring but my first week back we got a $1.2 million settlement for consumers on one of my cases. needless to say it went downhill from there - you cant really top that. do you have other family members in IT? only reason i ask is that both my brothers are programmers, dh, his brother, and the 4 year old is a computer geek already. must be a dominant gene so watch out!

[chele]

Supermum, WOW, I think your job sounds very interesting. Beats the heck out of mainframe. I have 3 brothers that are all welders, one being an ocean engineer (welding under water), but he also works on trouble shooting computer problems. He is very intellegent. The market is bad here for computer work too. I would say fault of the Y2K. Too many people got in because of the money and afterward all the DotCom companies here have pretty much went bottom up. In my husbands family they are all lawyers. Kinda funny huh, yours is all computer people, mine is all lawyers.:) I was going to ask in the last post what you did, but I thought I might sound too nosey. Gotta go got company

[peanut]

Hi Everyone- heres hoping to a great weekend!!!!

Renee: You must be scared half to death!!!! I heard they opened up the Canadian borders but since its spread there as well, i hope that the epidemic doesnt become worse!! Thisis getting out of control-lets hope to god they come up with something to ward against this. I just feel terrible for the hospital workers which i have always thought is the most noble profession there can be. They are literally being killed just by doing what they do-to help people. Its terrible. STay well.

After he had time to think about it , dad called to complain about what we were paying the nanny. Its so cheap because she works 12 hour days and doesnt see her family. He saves thousands by me working-it makes no sense!!!!

Oh well-----im happy and my house is sparkling clean and most importantly my son is happy. One day at a time. Meanwhile, i gave it to dad to find a great daycare for when dad demands he goes back (which will be in 2-3 months).

Mom2: Missed you. So glad Sophie is doing great. Grayson really has gotten so much better with the colic/reflux. I see so many smiles and im trying to teach him how to say mama: he screams out two syllable words-he loves to pull on hair. Your right about your job-there will always be a shortgage for teachers.

Chele-you are too funny-you do have a very sarcastic side, just like me. We would get along great if you were nearby. have you ever tried Dr. Karps CD with the white noise: its on this websit. The only way I get Grayson to sleep is by putting a pacifier in his mouth, putting the cd on and shusssssing him while rocking him in short fast strokes, up and down. I hope i dont have to do this forever!!!Im going to buy a backup cd just in case this one gets destroyed. I dont know what I would have done without it and found it only after someone on this sight recommended it. I just dont swaddle-tried it, he hates it, gave up on it!!! Take care in the windy city and good luck on Wed. (well, also when you get the stiches out-the itching is a great sign that its healing). Thats so funny your bother in law does what I do. Maybe we know each others law firms. Mine is pretty large and the main guy just died (hence why i have a job).

Supermum: That does sound like an interesting job-so do you investigate naughty law firms you work on behalf of the public??? SOunds like a very high power job-good for you. 4 hours of sleep is pretty much what im averaging during the week. I cant wait for Sat-even though im working sat and sunday, i get a night off as grayson goes with dad sat. night.

Question for all: what is daycare like at church???Is it typically only for one hour (the time of service)??? The reason why i am asking is because he dad does take him to sunday service and right now im trying to shield my son from all the sickness (at least for a few months) so that i dont have to take off work again for a while. I dont want to be unreasonable and keep my baby like a boy in the bubble-anyone have any bad experiences or noticed their child got sick after just such a small time with other kids???

I know im such a worry wart. Hugs to all of you and Blessed (Carol), wherever you are, im also thinking about you.

[supermum?]

Chele, my dh agrees with you about the y2k problem. companies dont want to spend money at the moment. but we are trying to keep the faith and hope something comes up soon. that is amazing that all your family are lawyers because i have this theory that law and IT must use the same part of the brain. quite a few of the girls i work with (all lawyers) also have brothers in IT. quite interesting really. and i think there's a connection between people good at maths and languages. my dh speaks a few and ficks them up quite easily. would be great if the boys take after their dad in that way.

peanut - you sound so much better which is fantastic. dont let the dad get you down. he's probably getting an ear full from the wife. i know you cant protect them from all viruses etc but child care is extremely bad for some kids. mine seem to be in that category. and it can happen in a couple of days. its great to hear that you are getting some happy and smiley times with Grayson. its funny how much we love them even though the going is so tough - just imagine how fantastic things will be when he can communicate more and life has settled down a bit. and yes we investigate anyone who is breaching the act (including lawyers and banks). my last few cases were against promoters of muscle stimulator products like the Abtronic. needless to say they dont work so please dont go out and spend your money on them in the hopes of losing 10 kilos in 10 weeks and getting fit and slim!!

[peanut]

No Supermum-no easy way to lose that pregnancy fat but ive never heard of that product. Is it exclusive to Australia or was it sold here. I had used phen-fen in the past (before the pondimum) was taken off the market (great for losing weight for me) . I just carry the extra weight now- i used to be a 0-2 now im a 8/10 and really am not concerned about it. Boy-a baby does change your perspectice of things,

Thanks for the response re: daycare but what do you think about just 1-2 hours of church daycare???? Chance hell get sick here like in daycare if hes only there 1-2 hours???? I am a little afraid if i dont let dad have overnight, hell try to reduce child support (he pays more than guideline).


I cant beieve how different everything feels today-for the first time i feel like im on a natural high-i am not sleepy at all (its12:30 am and i have to get up at 5:00am) and i was able to relax at work and start to understand what im doing. I know it all has to deal with the fact im not worrying about my son-my god, i didnt realize what a toll it was taking. Im thinking that in order to entice dad to keep the nanny, ill let him declare head of household on his taxes-so hell get a chunk of change at the end of the year. Im going to see exactly what it comes out to. Talk to you soon

[supermum?]

hey peanut

the abtronic i am pretty sure was sold over there and also taken to court by your FTC. there are a few others similar, you now where you strap on some pads and turn it on and it tones your muscles!!NOT. what is a 0/2? i didnt even know you could be so small..we dont have that size over here but it sounds tiny. no wonder the wicked stepmum is unhappy with you she probably thinks you will steal dad away again. sounds like you are still skinny and gorgeous post baby. unfortunatley i put on 30 kilos (60 pounds?)with the pregnancy this time (50 pounds the first) and just cannot motivate myself to lose it. i really have to get my act together.

i dont know whether the 1-2 hours at church care will pose too many problems for grayson as there cant be that many kids there can there? and surely people would keep their sick kids as home where you dont always have that option with day care as you have work. maybe you could use it as a way to show dad you are making an effort and say that you know its important to him so you will agree to it as long as grayson doesnt get sick ...maybe then he can cut you some slack back. just a thought.

great news that you are feeling so good. all you need is a few of these good days in a row and it will make such a difference. enjoy your weekend and dont work too hard!!:)

[peanut]

I know what youre talking about supermum-how funny i remember those but never fell for it. No quick easy way to lose it. No-i gained more than you 75lbs!!!! His wife first saw me at the small size and made a comment about it back at a christmas dinner for the legal community. The very first thing she told him when she saw me two weeks post pregnancy (when she invited herself into my house) was that i was fat-excuse me i just gave birth!!!! ANd what an idiot he is for telling me what she said.

I agree with you about the daycare-well try it that way. In the meantime, hope you have a good one and get some sleep. I just got home from work and going to run out to get hair washed. (i know, i dont do it myself because its so curly and she can cover up the bald spot well).

I know what you mean about the extra weight. I still have 25 to go and i just dont care. I have absolutely no interest in any man but my beautiful son. xoxox

[chele]

HI,
Supermum, I wanted to tell you a little more about that book. It was a solution this woman came up with instead of the "cry it out" solution to getting a baby to sleep. She says if you follow her tips you can get your baby to sleep through the night not waking for feedings. And you can help your baby learn to get himself back to sleep when he wakes in the middle of the night. It also has a solution for getting a baby off of a pacifier, which is something I need to do with Sammi because she likes her pacifier she just never learned to hold it in her mouth by herself. It is like if she had just found her thumb things would be so much easier.
I have heard of that ab thing - it reminded me of some kind of electrode therapy. My chiropracter uses something like it to stimulate the muscles after an adjustment. She said it basically wears the muscle out so it wont pull the bones/joints back out of position. Then the body can get used to being back in the correct place. And ha, I beat you both I gained 80 pounds during my pregnancy, but I lost 30 pounds 5 days after delivery. I retained just a little bit of water. I now still have 30lbs to get back to pre-baby weight, but I am with you motivation has been very low. However, we are finally getting nice weather so my motivation is getting a little better. I don't want anyone to see these pudgy legs in shorts. Yuck.
Yeah, peanut you are right I do get a little sarcastic sometimes:D . We could probably get into some trouble together. A size 0-2 how tall are you? I thought peanut was a nickname for your baby, now I know it is because you are a tiny little thing. How big was Grayson when he was born? I hope not too big. Sammi was 8 lb 6 oz, my doctor told me the next one needs to be smaller or I will be in quite a bit of trouble. As for church daycare, I don't think you have much to worry about, like supermum said, if the kids are sick you just wouldn't go to church. I can't see to many people taking their child to church if he had a fever or ear infection. There might be kids with colds there, but you will get that everywhere.
Supermum, I like your theory of people connecting.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

[Renee22]

Peanut

You have every right to be concerned about DS catching sicknesses over the weekend becos you're the one who have to put up with it during the week. My aunt who is looking after her grandson during the week has a hard time every Monday becos he always comes back with fever and throat infection after the weekend with his dad.:rolleyes: Hey, is Grayson born early Dec? My DS is born 1st week Dec and he is good at cereals, hv not tried vegetables yet. Hey, his wife was just telling the truth when she commented that you were fat (devout Baptists don't lie:)) but of course she need not be so crude! Take your time to slim down just stay healthy both mentally and physically!:D

Chele

I am a secretary in an international law firm. DH took care of DS last week and also this week - he's doing a great job-he even manages to get dinner ready for me!! He is good at handling babies. DS is always wanting to be pampered-I still breastfeed him although I only have a bit of milk now-I bottle feed him after that. You have an interesting job!:)

Hi all, I gained about 30 pounds during pregnancy for my small frame (1.5m)-I was already fat at 53kg before that-now I'm still fat at 57kg. I had a C-Section. I rather be fat and happy than to be slim and miserable.;) ;) ;) :D

[chele]

Wow, I feel like odd woman out, I am the only one who doesn't work in law. Will you still by my friends?:( I promise not to tell lawyer jokes.:D

Peanut, glad to hear you sounding so upbeat. But I have to quit talking to you - I think Sammi caught Grayson's cold, I am not sure, she seems to have had a runny nose all day long, and was cranky yesterday. It might be a false alarm, just some of her congestion working itself out. If that is the case, then we can still be friends.:D (just joking - didn't have much to write about so I thought I would just be a brat)

Hope everyone had a great weekend and is ready to start a new week. Do you think they will make us stop our ongoing conversation because it is getting so long at 4+ pages? Just curious.

[peanut]

Chele- I hope they dont make us stop-its the only thing helping me through this. Hope Sammi is doing well. Let me know how the fisrst day back to work is. Grayson was only 4lbs when he was born-i had a c-section because he was breach and just didnt want to come out of his warl jacuzzi. WHen he got out, in post -op he cried for hours. The nurse was surprised about how much he was crying. This should have been an indication.
I find that Grayson sounds congested at times abd think its a cold but it never has bbeen before or he'll sneeze alot or his REFLUX will act up (there-=i did say something relevant to the post which was first started). Oh- im 5'4 but i did some modeling (nothing famous believe me) early on so the weight used to be a huge issue with me, esp. with someone telling you to suck it in all the time.

Renee- Glad to hear your husband is helping you out. I feel so bad for your aunt-we get stuck with the crap. I went to go pick up ds from the dad's work but because i was coming home from an unfamiliar place, i got lost and was going to be 1/2 hour late. I had asked the dad to just keep his cell on so i could let him know. Well, i guess the wife didnt let him and i started panicking that thye would leave and I dont know where they live!!! He called me from the office all cheerful and completely phony and i was crying on the other end-when i got there his wife had my baby and was just looking at me and smiling. It just seemed so vindictive. There was no apology and i was coompletely ignored. I lost it and started yelloing at him that i was no longer going to allow all this visitation. I need to have my son more now that im working and i feel i need to set limits with the dad. All we should follow is guideline support and visitation (which means his $$$to me is going to decrease because its more than guideline. ) ALl i know is I need piece of mind-im going to go to court and get the orders down. I have been so stupid for waiting=hoping he would see his son and want to be with us. If i was a client I would tell them to go immediately and get court orders. I just have been afraid of him but i cant be any longer.

I know im going on and on and i have to get up in 5 hours. Just needed toexpell all these thoughts.

[supermum?]

Hey guys, how are you?

Chele thanks fo rthe info about the book, sounds like its worth reading. jacob has been a nightmare the last 2 days but his cold has returned and he seems to have really bad stomach pains again and is not sleeping at all during the day. he is so full on all the time, wont stay still and is a nightmare to change as he squirms the whole time...deep breathing....i have really had enough. the first 12 months are so hard, i just hoped it would have started getting easier. i am sure other people find our boring lives fascinating to read about so why would they limit our communication?? and as for the non legal person of the group, lets just say that its a breath of fresh air having a computer geek among us..(kidding)
peanut, it sounds like the dad is just gutless and the wife calls all the shots. he is probably too scared to put another foot wrong. i guess the issue is, if he did decide to leave her would you want him with you anyway? just out of curiosity is he older than you? why havent they had kids? i dont think that you should act too quickly about cutting down his hours yet, because it may be beneficial for you until you get on top of the job. just a thought. but once again you need to do what is best fopr you and grayson. if he is actually bonding with dad and dad is doing a good job then it may not be bad to let him see him more than normal. maybe one night a week instead of weekend will give you a break...work out what is going to help you out the most and work with that.

and all of you make me sick....all teeny tiny people. i am the odd one out as i have never been skinny. but i guess there's always hope...

i cant believe how tiny grayson was, was he premmie? my first was 9 pounds but jacob was only 7 after spending 5 days in intensive care (premmie lungs). the first night i had him in hospital (and the first full bottle he was allowed to drinl) he cried for 6 hours that night. so i know a bit how you must have felt peanut. we have such special children...

[chele]

Hi everybody,
Peanut, at a size 6-8 your are not fat by any means, I don't care what the witchy woman says. I am 5'4" too and am no where near a 6-8 any more.:cry3 To most people you have to look at a normal weight, even with petite bone structure. At a 0-2 you had to look anorexic. I know I did when I was in that size, way back when. You don't need to lose weight, maybe tone a little but not lose anything. I have to agree with Supermum, you wouldn't really want him back, how could you ever trust him? He did it on her he would do it on you, they can always find an excuse why it wasn't thier fault they cheated on you. Trust me I date one of those winners for 8 years, they never do anything wrong, they are a product of circumstances beyond thier control. They couldn't help it that a woman came up and hit on them after buying her a drink:angel3 Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You deserve better!!!! I also agree with Supermum on the not burning all your bridges just yet. Remember killing with kindness can get you more than throwing a fit to get your way, because a lot of times once we get our way it isn't really what we want after all. I would say his wife is having a problem with the money he is giving you and that is why he decided the nanny wasn't such a good idea. I know it is really hard to be nice sometimes and I am not saying don't tell him what you think, you deserve to express yourself, but if you change things so there is no give on your end, it might be the same on the other end and he won't help by taking Grayson when you really need him to b/c it is not his visitation time. I know blah, blah, blah, can't wait til she goes back to work so she will quit rattling on and on. I will stop with the lecture now.

Oh Supermum, I see your problem. Those day naps are almost more important than sleeping through the night.:( All I can say is keep trying to get those naps in. You will go crazy without them.
Oh and thanks for letting me babble on and on. You would think for a computer geek I would have more of a streamline way of thinking, not as scatter brain I seem in these posts. I think it is the giving birth that sacatter the thoughts, or the sleepless nights that followed. Hmm.
Well have a good day. ( oh this post isn't that long I still have 7000 characters I could use:D ) Yes, I found the check message length. I need a life!!!!

[Renee22]

Peanut

It should be harder for the wife to be nice to you than for you to be nice to her - she is the one who got "two-timed".;) Just train yourself to be diplomatic with her 'cos Grayson is gonna be with her sometimes and whether or not you like her, it's important that she shows love and kindness to him.

Hope you will be able to control yourself emotionally - I know it's not easy 'cos you got cheated by this scumbag who "lifted" you so high and then dropped you like a bomb. You deserve a better man.;) Don't let him or his wife or their words/action dictate you or how you should feel or spoil your day. You should be in control of yourself.

Remember, no matter what things/words have been done or said to hurt you, everyday is a beautiful day that God has created for you and everybody. Live your days beautifully!:D :D :D

[peanut]

I just replied to all of you guys and lost the friggin thing-Chele I need you!!!!! I am so techinically challenged its not funny. E-mail is still new to me. Gigabytes??????? Bet youll be glad to go back to work. I know a 6-8 isnt big in reality but people are so used to seeing me the other way and i have been to broke to buy bigger suits so im wearing those awesome cellulite hose to suck it in. I use to work out every day. I wouldnt have one iota of dsire to do it again. Plus im thinking WHEN????? I again took files home and i have yet to sit down and work on them. By the way, EIGHT YEARS-------OH MY , WHAT A WASTE OF TIME. THANK GOD I FOUND OUT WITHIN THE YEAR. They do have a funny way of shifting the blame though dont they.

Supermum-grayson wasnt premie but came out two weeks early-i was a small baby though myself. So you had a little premmie???? When they are that small and so helpless its awful. Mine had jaundice and had to wear the blindfolds and be in the plastic container and i had to tell the nurses to take him to the nursery because i couldnt bear to watch him-it upset me so much. It must have been so hard to haveseen jacob in there, poor thing. I am so sorry youre having a tough few days with Jacob-you know, Grayson never naps so by the time i put him down at 7 or 8 hes usually out and will ususally sleep through the night, maybe an occasional awakening at 11:00 p.m. Its gotten better. Its just sounds like Jacob has been sick so thats why its been extrememly difficult on you. I dont know if you ever mentioned this, you probably did, and im nosy but are you married and if so, does the dad help out? You have a very stressful job as well dont you?? I would think anything in a law firm (renee-you included) would be stressful-oh chele-ignore this part you computergeek.


I am not filing anything-my atty friend who took grayson over the weekend a few weeks again called me frantically and begged me to hold off and to just wait. She said it will add fuel to the fire-its so hard to be nice. Restraint is the key, i know. I tried to be extra nice to the clients today------.

I think we have pretty exciting lives for everyone to read about!!!!Scandal, controversy and babies!!!!

[supermum?]

hey guys, welcome back to the glamorous global soap opera featuring lies, betrayal, gorgeous women (despite the baby bellies) jealousy, bitchiness (i'm thinking wicked stepmum here) and challenges for all. add a bit of baby puke, hours of crying and sleeplessness and you have OUR LIVES!!
of course Peanut you provide a lot of the entertainment value but i promise that we will try and add a bit of spice over time.

after 3 hours sleep last night (jacob is being a pain and was wide awake again despite me trying to sedate him) we were at the hospital at 7am for an operation for Zac who is now 4 and had an infected grommett. he had to have them at 1yr after 10 months of constant ear infections. despite puss oozing out of his ear for the last 9 months and repeated doses of antibiotics doctors told me it was normal and we would just have to wait until it grew out. of course when we saw the specialist he said that because it had been in for so long it was probably treating it as a foreign body and rejecting it hence the constant ear infections. will the drama ever end?? the good news is that hopefully things should improve now. but why are doctors so hopeless?

Peanut - so you were with him a year? had he left her for that long? why is he with her now, has he ever told you?

i do have a husband who was hopeless with the first baby and i felt completely cheated. i really didnt think our marriage would survive as i had to do all the work, he didnt bond very well with zac until he was at least 2 etc etc. but a week before we had jacob he got retrenched and he is usually senior management and work is very improtant to him. he even spent 2 months away when jacob was a few months old looking for work. but the last few months he is great, can get him off to slepp and actually is a help. he looks after him on wednesdays as i cant get child care that day and manages OK but i still come home to a messy house, no chores done etc. its a full on job for him just to look after the baby. but at least he is getting better slowly. i just think most guys are hopeless when it comes to domestic stuff. chele good luck with work. let us know how you go.

[Renee22]

Supermum?

DH is great at handling DS, cooking, cleaning the floor and clearing ant nests! However, he's terrible at other things - he never completes a job and I am left to pick up the bits & pieces.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: He loves doing the marketing and even goes around comparing prices - incredible!!:D :D Hey, just one question on that ear infection - does water ever get into his ear when you bathe him? I have been reminded constantly by my aunties be always careful not to let water get into his ears as it would lead to an infection.

Hi Peanut

Remember that every day is a beautiful day and that no scumbag is ever going to spoil your day and no idiot is worthy of making you miserable!;) You're going to be have a joy-filled day and that DS will be able to feel your love and joy when you hold him.:puh :puh

[supermum?]

Hi renee

your DH sounds slightly better than the rest, the only shopping mine does if for things he is interested in like books, tools, anything he needs or wants. we joke that there must be a laundry fairy as his clothes end up clean and folded in his drawers without him lifting a finger. problem is, i really dont know many men that are better. they can never do more than one thing at a time and like your dh, rarely complete a task 9at least one's that we want them to do). it irritates me that they are usually professional men, great at their jobs but cant even remember to put the garbage out. mine doesnt pay the bills (i handle all the money) and i think half the time he prefers acting useless because he knows i willl get in and do things. and now i have had 2 boys. lets hope i can train them better.

with the ear infections once he got grommets he couldnt get water in his ears as it can cauuse an infection with the water having direct access to the middle ear. we had special plugs fitted but really only needed them for swimming. his infections werent caused by this in the last 6 months though. we have just been really unlucky but he is such a brave boy.

[chele]

Hi all, my last day of luxury.:cry2 I don't want to go back to work, and it isn't that I don't like my job, I have just enjoyed being a bum, and I do mean bum.
Supermum - you are so funny I actually laughed out loud on that post. Of course we have a wicked stepmum, what would a soap be without one. This is the best soap I have ever read.
Boy, you are having a tough time of it. I think my DH's cousin's son (does this sound like a story) had the same problem as your son. He has to wear this head band thing ( I have seen them on the OneStepAhead web site.) with the special plugs when he goes swimming and he doesn't put his head in the water at all. I can't say I blame him. He is a cutie though. I bet your son is adorable and has the best personality. He has to look at his mom. Doesn't get frustrating dealing with drs. A friend of mine says "remember they are only practicing". Well for practicing something they get paid an awfull lot. Oops, lawyers are practicing too, don't they. Well, that is different, it isn't someones health on the line, and to me the drs I have delt with recently, seem not to really care to much. I feel more like a number than a patient.

Peanut - yeah, 8 years, I was young and stupid, with no self confidence. I can't really say it was a waste because it help to make me who I am today. And I think I am a pretty good person now. And I ended up with a pretty good guy, and we have a beautiful, loud baby, who everyone says looks just like the gerber baby. And besides I got all of the yuck out in one boyfriend instead of finding out how all guys are jerks. However I can say I was hurt when he got married before I did. Not b/c I had feelings for him, but b/c I didn't feel he deserved to be happy while I couldn't find someone to make me happy. It was kinda like I thought that there was only so much happiness in the world and he didn't deserve to get any, I should get his share. Since then I have been told, life only looks like roses in his yard. He is still the same slimey person he was when we were together, lying, cheating, jerk. And I have grown so much, I have learned it isn't worth my time to hate people, b/c it takes to much time and energy out of my life. Why should I let someone have that much control over my life. I still fume about a lot of things. It isn't like I am a saint, by any means, but it is the only way for me to feel like I didn't waste my life. And besides if that hadn't have happened I wouldn't be where I am today, and I am pretty happy with that. We have to stay optimistic otherwise it all comes tumbling down... Hey, what is this you get a full night out of Grayson? I am jealous. So jealous, if Sammi would wake at 11 I would be doing a dance. She wakes at 3:30am to get fed, I don't know why suddenly she is getting up again. It is frustrating when you know she can sleep through the night and doesn't. Oh well, supermum you have it much harder so I guess I should quit complaining. Whatever it was that looked like a cold I guess wasn't, she seems fine. So peanut you are back in, I guess Sammi didn't catch Grayson's cold. You are so lucky.

I am not sure when I became such the philosopher, but I must say it is quite anoying. Well, I am blond, anoying comes with the territory, and the ability to go on & on without making any sense or getting to a point.:puh Well, I hope everyone is doing well

[supermum?]

hey girls hope you are having a great day

on a more serious note (yes we are capable of it) chele i was very impressed by your attitude because i can relate to it completely. after i had jacob people started commenting that i seemed different (well the lack of sleep and c-section will do it to you) more calm. and i know that i definately am. as a control freak i didnt ever think that i would stop being a stress case but with dh losing his job and the baby being in intensive care etc i have become a different person. and i really like her. i only worry about the things that i can control and i try to stay positive. i am certainly getting better. people are amazed that at the moment when asked how things are (as we are realy poor and he is still looking for work) i say 'never been better'. we have had an opportunity to spend time as a family that we would never have had before and dh and i are getting on like we did when we first met (except for the insatiable sex - remember no sleep). but on the whole things are good. we were so into making money before that we have turned around and started to focus on the family. of course it would be nice to be earning good money again.... but i know that will come. anyway, chele, what i wanted to say was i really like the person you have become too!!!wouldnt have picked you for a blond though...way too smart. you must be a brunette on the inside.

soap operas have to have some soppy moments too dont they?

[Renee22]

Supermum

I completely agree with you that men can only do one thing at a time!:D Women are made to multitask.

Hi all

It seem we all suffer from lack of sleep - I'm working full time, breastfeeding (night only) and take over from my husband when I come home from work. I seems I work 24 hrs (you all do too), never have an off day. I have to wake up at least 2x a night to feed DS, more if he cries or have night terrors. DH gets weekends and nights off, how unfair!!!:rolleyes:

[chele]

Thanks supermum, isn't it funny the way things work out. I am happy to hear that you and dh are getting closer in your hard times rather than farther apart. That is quite an accomplishment in this day and age, and I am happy to be acquainted with people like that.

Well, you see, I am a real blond (you don't find too many of them) that is why I am still smart. No chemicals seeping into the brain to kill brain cells.

I have to tell you this cute story. Tonight I brought home dd and put her in her highchair. She likes to sit there and play. So I started washing some dishes, and got her dinner ready. She looked up at me and say the jar of baby food in my hand and started sticking her tongue out. It almost looked like she was licking her lips and then she started to smile really big. She was so cute. I swear going to daycare makes her the "happiest baby on the block":puh Which makes me the happiest mommy on the block.

[peanut]

Wow-I miss one day and oh-----so much!!!!! You women are the funniest. Sorry I havent replied sooner and excuse me for probably forgetting to comment/respond to half of the questions/conversation-ds(im going to start playing that game too!!) got me sick and im fighting ear infection/sore throat and body aches. I hope i dont re-infect him but i have no time to see a doc for myself. I have to take him tommorow night to the doc because he has now developeda severe rash near the anal area. I know hes changed alot with the cream, so do you guys think it could be the effects of the amoxicillan??? I took out all of my books tonight (baby books that is) and am trying to research the subject. I figured time to go back again to the doc. Am i anal as well?????

Chele-glad were in your good graces again-natural blonde-hmmmmnever met one of those here in southern california. Im brunette myself. How old was Sammi before you put her in the high chair??? I bought one of those booster plastic attachments and ds started to fall lopsided. It was so funny. I know what you mean about those killer smiles. When i get home, the nanny is holding him and it takes him about a minute of looking at me and then he finally breaks a smile.

I know that we should look at each experience as a lesson learned and i do have a wonderful son out of it. But i have my fantasies of running away to a deserted island (clothes optional as my "naked boy" likes it). He says he was separated a few months but who knows-i never checked up on him. He always came to see me. He and his wife (his third) never had kids together-she has a grown son and is 52-cant have any more kids (menopause). This is his first and only child. He just turned 50. His parents love his wife and i think threatened him. He also was convinced we would never get along (probably another lie just for him to weasel himself out of). My friend is convinced he planned this all along to have a baby b/c it was his last shot. Oh-and he said his wife was already cheated on by her first husband and this would kill her. (give me a break-this was also the man who told me a woman would never tell him what to do). But Being pregant and all alone made me strong. I had to learn to climb 40 steps of stairs at a time, bringing one bottle of water up at a time (i drink like a camel), i went to all the fire stations and police stations near me to help put in the car seat properlym (can you believe noone would help an 8 mo pregnant woman), and so on and so on. When my ds broke away from the placentia (he is a miracle baby!!) dad saw me for an hour in the emergency room and then left to go to Jenny Craig with his wife. Ok-is that enough spice to this e-mail??? I thought you guys would be disappointed without it.

Supermum-Renee: I know what you mean about men being only able to do one thing. My dad would be comepletely helpless without my mom and yet is great at his job-and i mean helpless. But of course, he really is physically getting that way which breaks my heart to see him slowly deterioating. Renee-how is your dad????? Hope hes doing better. Its such a hard thing when we see our parents sick or getting older.

Supermum: you are too funny. Glad i can entertain. Ok-what is that grotten??????(sp??) that youre talking about in Jacob's ear? Did you have problems as a child yourself with ear infections? If a grotten is like an ear plug, i had to have those myself when i was a flight attendant because of constant earaches when i was young. I really dont know how you do it all-guess thats why your called supermum (oh-i hope you referring to dads wife as theeveil stepmum).


Im dreading having to tell them at work i have to leave a 1/2 hour early so i can take ds to the doc (even though i usually work through lunch and come in on the weekends). These girls are so rough.......i try to ignore them but sometimes its hard. Oh well--------oh-remember that one case i was working on all weekend b/c it was an emergency??/ I won and saved the guys house!!!!! Ok-noone even said thank you (the clients, my firm (even though i saved them from a malpractice suit) and my friend that i work for). Oh well---------(thats a hint to you guys for kudos's!!!!) I would put one of those smiley things on the end but i cant figure it out. Chele-i should be the blonde. I clicked onto it. Nothing. I think you guys should put the smiley face with the question marks above his head right about here. Hey, today i learned how to use the stamp machine. I was so excited apparently my mouth was agape and my tongue practicallyhanging out (i am so bright!!!!!).

Allright guys-im going to sign off and will address this and look forwardto all the exciting news tomorrow/ Im sorry to say American Idol took away most of my attenetion span tonight.

[supermum?]

welcome back peanut, i really missed you (pathetic i have no life but then again, you are such a great person so pretty easy to miss).

i am sorry to hear that you arent feeling great hope you are taking your vitamins. i had the biggest smile on my face when you described grayson's smiling at you when you get home. doesnt that make it all worth it! and WELL DONE, i am so very impressed with your win at work and while they didnt thank you (the selfish bastards) dont think for one minute they dont know what a great job you did. only problem now is they know how good you are and will expect it all the time. but hey, you just proved that you could do it under extremely stressful circumstances, you can achieve anything. Jenny Craig instead of the birth of his son? what a pathetic excuse for a man. he obviously knows how pathetic he is and at least this woman will put up with his crap. i am sure that he knows that you wouldnt and doesnt want to deal with that. save yourself for your handsome prince because i have no doubt that you will find him one day. and the grommet is a tube that is inserted (in surgery) into the middle ear to drain excess fluid. when kids have heaps of ear infections this is often needed. i never had any problems by my dh and his family did (bastard). the grommets help the problem if not treated kids can have hearing problems etc) but you cant go swimming or get water in as the bacteria gets straight into the ear and can cause an infection. anyway, its all over now thank god.

as for the seat, i bought my kids a high chair that had a few different levels of elevation so when they were 5 months and not as good holding themselves up they could be tilted a little. also, use towels to prop him up. they seem a lot happier once they can be upright and look around. at childcare they put them in the swing pretty early so i would give it a go.

chele - how was work? are you exhausted? i dont know about you but i find the hardest part of the day is getting myself and 2 kids ready to leave the house by 7.30am to drop them at daycare. you know while i love our baby group, i am really missing the coffee and cake!!!

[chele]

Hi guys, I survived, but my feet are killing me. Everyone at work kept asking me about my "freak accident", then as I was leaving this girl at the elevator asks how I am doing and that the same thing (only not as drastic as mine) happened to another girl on our floor(guess I am not the only freak that works there, ha!). The door must have caught her a little higer on the ankle cuz it knocked her down but didn't cut the skin. I guess she was sore for a couple of weeks. So do you think it will help my case when we sue the building for dangerous doors (like the lawyer lingo:D) See I can hang with the big kids:cool: My father-in-law is all over the workers comp part, because so far they took my PTO(paid time off - which consists of both sick days and vacation day) and my brother-in-law wants to sue the building for something, but I am not sure what. I reminded them, I need this job, please don't get me fired, unless of course he can get me a huge settlement so I don't have to work anymore. So we will see how it goes. I do have to tell you, I almost killed myself like 10 times today. I have just become the most gracefull thing. I slipped on the steps getting off the train this morning, and at work I kept dragging my feet and tripping. A few times I almost fell on my face. God forbid I try to chew gum and walk, I will kill myself. Can't you see the headlines now - "No surprise today when a blond died, she was trying to chew gum and walk. Crazy girl"

Supermum, here we use the technical term of "having tubes put in their ear". So now I can use the real term of grommets and now sound very knowledgable. Thank you, it will help me to throw people off who think I am dumb.:) Oh, and I need to put my 2 cents in on men's ability to do only one thing at a time. That is not true ... can they even do that many? I mean it must be hard to clean up the kitchen or fold clothes with those 2 heads thinking at the same time. Oh, I can't get started, I would have to post many posts on that subject. I love my dh, but somedays I think he really missed out when they were passing out common sense. He gets mad cuz I am always asking him why he did something the way he did it. I am really just curious if I can figure out his thought process. I can't.
Yeah, the hardest part of the day is getting up and getting there. At least I take a train so I can nap on the way to and from. One of these days I am going to miss my stop though and be in some trouble. oh well, I like naps.

Peanut, I don't know what we are going to do with you. You have to take care of yourself and quit working yourself to death. Do you have a regular dr? Can you just call and see if they will call you in a prescription to your pharmacy? That is what I try to do as often as possible, otherwise I have to take a full day off to go to the dr. and I don't like wasting the time. As for the diaper rash, my brother's girlfriend said that a little mylanta rubbed on the affected area helped her kids when they were little. She said it was the best thing for diaper rash. As for it being the amoxicillin - this is what the American Baby web site says about diaper rash
Diaper rash may be prompted by: 1.Taking an oral antibiotic, causing disruption to the natural balance of bacteria in the body, 2.Starting on solid foods, which can change her stool and cause irritation , 3. An allergy to foods, disposable diapers, soap, or laundry detergent
It is a really good website, it has alot of helpful information. Under the baby tab they have a Pediatric Health Center where you can put in the symptoms and it will find you possible illnesses. I think it is interesting. Hey did you some how disable your smilies? If you clicked on one of the smilie face's it should have popped into your message. Oh the highchair question, Sammi has been in the highchair since about 3 months. They put her in the highchair table(a 1/2 moon table with chairs in the top for babies to sit in - it seats about 6 babies and makes it easier for the group feedings and reading them stories) at school then and she loved sitting with the other kids. She has always been really strong and loves to stand up, we also put her in one of those play saucers(the new version of the old walkers) when she was just past 3 months. It is her favorite toy, which she uses mostly for chewing on. At home we have the healthy care highchair. It reclines back, which I use for getting her in and out without removing the tray. As for the lopsidedness just put a blanket around him. That is what we do out at restaurants is put a coat or something round her so she will sit up better.

Hi Renee, don't want you to feel left out. Hope all is well, with you and family.

Well, as you can tell by the length of this I was around people today and don't have much to say, so I will let you guys do something more interesting. Have a good day/night.

[Renee22]

Peanut , please take care of your health-you need to maintain good health in order to care for Grayson.;) Since he's 52 and has only 1 son, make sure he leaves a hefty inheritance before he kicks the bucket!;) It's my father-in-law that is sick - he is scheduled to go to that SARs hospital for an op next week (huge hospital with 1 tower blocked off for SARs patients). We're going to stay away from him when he is discharged. The govt has imposed a "NO VISITOR" rule for all public hospitals (except on compassionate grounds) in order to contain the outbreak of SARS.:D As for the rashes, I use a prescribed steriod cream (for babies) and it is very effective. After all that experience, never trust a man again - you don't have to go all the way out to please him 'cos that won't work. Sometimes, we just have to be nasty and not take any nonsense from them - only then will they respect us.;) DS is too young to be able to sit up - he will be 5 mths this week? My DS will be 5 mths this week.;)

Chele , how's going nack to work? Hope DD is coping well with daycare and everyone's happy!:D I can't believe you're so clumsy!!!

Supermum , hope Jacob's recovering well from that op and is back to his normal cheerful self.;)

HI ALL, DS went for his vaccination jab 2 days ago and came down with fever and was so edgy, his arm was swollen (due to jab) and he was crying a lot. I spent the whole of yesterday taking care of him (it was a public hol) and it really zapped the energy from me!:rolleyes:

Miss having my own time Signed up for a package of spa treatments but never had the time to go for it!:D:

[peanut]

You are just too funny Chele and Supermum-Chele: Who know what I disabled. I was looking around my computer at work today (i took over the desk of a guy i got fired-im not a mean person, hes just eveil) and found all these porn sites. It made for quite an interesting time. After having rushed to the doctor with ds for his freakin diaper rash (yes, thats all it was-god they must totally make fun of me) i really need to take carfe of myself. I dont have a doctor so im really dreading having to go find one but i cant re--infect the peanut (hes 14 lbs!!!!). I cant believe you got youdd to go in a walker-my guy is 4 1/2 and just learning how to roll on his side. See, girls are smarter, even if they are the offshoot of a BLONDE!!!! Sounds like you have a great premises liability suit! It has nothing to do with your work job (workers comp) sue the landlord of the building and get that other girl to also join suit. At least get some painand suffering!!!!! So when you get rich, you need to buy a tropical island where all of our kids can run wild and naked (no diapers/baby rashes prohibited). I will have to try the liquid mylanta. I actually have some in the regrig. Have you ever tried just plain vaseline? Two people recommended it. We might just have to have the other door hit you in the A__ so thae twe can enjoy your lenghty e-mails. I am going to feel cheated!!!

Supermum: Thanks you for that and for such a sweet sentiment. You think they know? All i know was today i was pretty much told that in order to ensure raises, i really should start to bring some $$$ in. Theonly problem is i feel sorry for the clients and am trying to fix that guys screw ups-i dont feel like i should charge the clients-they never did anything wrong. Well, i guess ill be the only poor lawyer living under a bridge with my naked boy while all my clients have their homes!!!!(a smiley face would be inserted here).

Renee: You are so funny but so right. He took out a life insurnace policy for $300k (big deal in this day and age-its only for his education: NO LAW SCHOOL!!!!!). Then ds and his wife will have to fight it out in probate. Hell probably outlive me!!!! But i will never trust a man again except for my son and the only prince im waiting for again is for my son. For the first time in my life i know i can make it without a man. Sorry about the mistake-father in law-are you close? It doesnt seem like your dh has a very warm family. Well, im glad you wont be able to go visit-you need to make sure NOTHING compromises your or your baby's health. I realize that nobody is going to love our babies like we do and i dont think i will ever think that anyone can do as good of a job as i do. Isnt that funny-what a change from being an insecure mother (which i guess i still am since i rush to the doctors for a diaper rash) to knowing im doing a great job raising him. I wish i could have gotten steriod cream- the doc didnt think it was a problem but it was a friggin man!!! I cant wait until mon when i see my woman docl for ds checkup-ill ask her for some. I feel like men always try to keep us chained up. Oh wait-they do. I dont know if this is what you found to be true when you were dating before getting married but men say they love you for being a strong woman but then use that against you. I would nevefr put up with the crap he has put his wife through and he knows that. Hed be divorced 4 times. I know-its just too hard to always try to be nice yet i always feel guilty when im mean and i end up calling up and apologizing. ok-i have issues but im working on them.

STay well all
Take care guys-i gotta get his bottles ready and get up in a few hours.

Hugs

Supermum

[peanut]

Renee; PS my son was born 12/11/02- so were close in their ages. (insert smiley face here)

[Renee22]

Peanut

You're right-DH does not come from a warm family. His dad could not hold on to a proper job and was a compulsive gambler/smoker and they are poor - his poor mum was really oppressed and I really wondered how she could take all that nonsense. In fact, that old man squandered his retirement money in one week just on horses and his wife did not get to spend anything!!:(

Chele , I like all that blond jokes!

[supermum?]

You guys are just soooo funny, i am so ipressed that i have such funny, intelligent, capable and extremely gorgeous friends. Ok so we have never actually met and i have no idea what you all look like (oh, and you may not consider me your friend - minor detail), but i am pretty damm sure i am right about you.
Chele -you have once again impressed me with your wisdom and intelligence by quoting medical information and providing accurate diagnisis of graysons irritated bum (oops i mean bottom). and as for the clumsiness, is this a result of the injury (if so you should keep a diary of any problems you have in case you sue) or are you just keeping up the dumb blond impersonation?? sounds like your sammie is like Jacob - he was rolling over at 7 weeks, sitting up on his own at 5 months and now stands holding on with one hand (but does fall regularly and has big bruises all over his head). zac walked at 10 months but i think jacob might beat him.

peanut - it OK to stress about grayson and run tothe doctors just for nappy rash, that's what we do with new babies. and sometimes nappy rash turns out to be a bacterial infection and you need cream for it anyway so it doesnt hurt to check it out (or you can ask Chele and she will look it up for you). :angel4

I think that the legal profession here is as bad as it sounds there and they are only interested in $$$$ not people. i know that working for the government is a little bit better as they allow you to work part time but i have no interest in joining a law firm and being treated like crap. i think as a woman with children it is alost impossible to be treated as an equal. anyway, my point is that while you need a job now, is there some direction you could take where it pays well but allows you to actually help people at the same time?? just a thought. i have been trying to think of something else that i can do that will make me feel that i am actually contributing to society in a beneficial way and let me leave if i need to pick up the kids. i wil let you know if i come up with anything - but surely there's something out there where you can achieve that balance. and as for not billing clients because of the other guys incompetencies??? unfortunately its too late, he has done it and you fixing it (while still charging) is the best you can do unless the firm is prepared to forgo the money. you need to think of yourself first and raising your image with the firm.

Renee - get yourself to that spa and then tell us all the blissful details.

[supermum?]

Peanut - i just noticed that grayson is a scorpio. so am i and so is Zac. that boy will need lots of love and affection but will be so loyal and lovable. i play games with Zac all the time about 'this is what i love about you..." and he now plays the same back with me. its our ritual in the car. unfortunately i dont think Jacob will be the same - he doesnt even like cuddles. far too independant.

[chele]

Hey guys, this is going to be short cuz I am at work. Hey, when you are off work for 2 weeks and not allowed to do anything you find a lot of stuff on the internet. Besides I love surfing the net. Anything you guys want to know I can look it up for you. Remember I am your computer geek. I can type and hit enter. You know what my dream job would be - although I don't think I could make any money at it. I want to start a support group for new mothers and parents of colicky babies. I had a breastfeeding support group that I went to and it was just nice to get out of the house those first couple of weeks, even bringing the baby with me. And this website has been a total life saver for me.

Peanut if you have a IT department you might want to ask them to clean off the computer at least the porn stuff. Just if something where to happen (the evil people working there - decide to be mean to you) if they did a search on your computer they might think you were out looking at it and use it against you to get you fired. I mean it probably would never happen, but if there is an IT dept it might be better to be safe than sorry.

Well, I better go lunch is almost over. have a great weekend if I don't make it on this weekend. You know what have a great one even if I do make it back on to the site this weekend.:D And peanut you keep practicing getting those smilies to work:puh

[mom2]

Man, oh man! I can't keep up with all of you! I was two pages behind in reading posts! Hope you all don't think I 'm crashing in. It is just so good to feel like I am connected to other people!!My life os so boring compared to all of you! I really miss working but at the same time I feel good about staying home with the kids. I am thinking about trying to find something this summer when my husband is home (he teaches also). The hard part is that my dd still will not take a bottle so I am sort of bound by her eating schedule!

Hey Peanut, I can't figure out the smilies either!!!! So glad I am not the only one! I hope you are feeling better. Don't worry about taking Grayson in for anything.It is always better to be safe than sorry and put your mind at ease. I remember taking my son in when he was about months old because I was worried he was spitting up too much and not gaining weight and the Dr. took one look at him and said "You think he is not eating enough? He is off the charts for height and weight." I sort of crept out of the office!But as a mother (and father) you worry! Maybe the spitting up should have been a warning about what was to come with dd!! In retrospect, I am quite sure he did have reflux but that it wasn't severe enough to medicate. He outgrew it very quickly too. DD is not yet in a high chair either. She is 6 1/2 months but is not real strong as far as sitting up yet plus I have to get her brother a booster chair so that she can have his high chair! I don't think he is going to like that very much. He has been getting more possessive of everything latley. I think he starting to realize that she is another little person vs just a screaming little ball! Gotta go the dog is barking and I FINALLY have them both napping AT THE SAME TIME!!!

[chele]

Welcome to the soap mom2, ah a sexy new comer appears on the scene, what scandles will come of this? What are her deep dark secrets?

Stay tuned and find out.:D :D :D :D

[supermum?]

Mom2 glad to have you with us. we dont discriminate in our little group so stay at home mums are more than welcome. you just have to be prepared to spill some goss and talk about your sordid past.......so poor peanut doesnt have to do it all. 2 kids in highchairs!!!!!! are you crazy? they must be really close in age. i am insane enough and i have a 4 year gap. you brave woman. Take care guys i will be back to bore you to tears later, but my dh is breathing down my neck waiting for the computer. did we say the other day that patience is also not an attribute they possess!!!! :)

[mom2]

Hmmmm, deep dark secrets huh--I wish right now I had some to share! Life these past months has been limited to eat, sleep and get up and do it again.It seems so strange to get excited about being able to stay up until 10 pm and know that I will still get a full nights sleep!!!

Yes, my children are close in age and it wasn't planned that way! There is 16 months between my son and daughter. It has been absolutely crazy around here--thank goodness my son has such a great disposition. I don't know what we would have done if he wasn't such an angel. My dh and I figured out that by the time our dd is out of diapers we will have been changing diapers for 4 years!!! Like I said, not much time for much else but I am working on taking some time back for myself. My dh is great about taking the kids for a few hours on the weekend so that I can get a break and I think this weekend I may actually use the gift certificate for a massage that he gave me for Christmas!!!!!I just haven't had the energy or time to go before now.


Hope everyone has a great weekend. Take care.

[peanut]

Geez Louse: by the time i get down to the bottom of all the new e-mails, i forgot what was at the very beginning!!!So excuse me if i forget to address each one of you gals- i have a feeling

Chele: my pediatric guide: how do you check e-mail when youre away from home????? Well, i dont have an IT dept. (im not as important as you are) . I am it ---literally. I have to learn how to type as well......im so used to having my own secretary, i am it, all alone.......the girls in the office actually had to remove it for me but they know what a scumbag this guy was. I have larengitis (how sp???) so it made for quite an interesting day. Tomorrow (sat) i have to work (well at least mime to my clients) and i get one night off from NB (otherwise known as naked boy) while his dad takes him. Im so glad youre interested in my bab's butt. Actually, who knew one babies butt could generate a whole new page of e-mails. See Mom2: arent we exciting??? Look at what youve missed. So ds is like Sophie-thank god!!! Otherwise I would think ds was slow. Its great that you can stay at home-you know that you can trust you-i always have ds in the back of my mind at work. Of course with him staring at me in a picture at work (a huge one at that) hes usually at the front of my mind.

Renee: I cant believe your in laws stayed together. She must have been through alot and suffered.

Supermum: I can tell that we are a good looking threesome (oh-wait-add mom2) foursome. Great minds think alike.
Youreright about a federal job-my friend is bugging me to continue to look for a federal positionj b/c of job security. In private law firms, there is no such thing as job stability.

Im sorry i gotta run guys-i have to prep a petition for tomorrow. Talk to you soon!!!!!

[chele]

OK mom2, lets drag it out of you. Things we need to know - Your bio doesn't tell us where you are from, not specific address just general area, country, state something like that. Not too personal. I know you were a teacher, what grade? Were both kids colicky? Um, I can't think of any other questions, help me out girls!
Yep, I am back, I have to stay up doing laundry tonight so I thought I would bug you. Unfortunately nothing exciting to report. I didn't kill myself today at work, no tripping, Yeah. And I have concluded that I really don't want to work anymore. Well that isn't entirely true, I only want to do the things at work that I really like to do, like the trouble shooting. I love solving the problems, I just don't like the paper work that goes with it and dealing with some of the customers, blah, blah, blah, I know, quit complaining I have only been back to work 2 days and you girls haven't had any breaks. What can I say I am a complainer. Sorry but you were the ones that answered my ad:)

And Renee, I like blond jokes to I see nothing to get offended about. I think it is funny when people think they will offend me with a blond joke. I usually have one I can tell back.
Got to go. Have a great weekend all. Don't party too hard.

[supermum?]

hey lovely ladies

chele - you havent put in your profile how old you are (OK so a lady never tells except maybe to another lady). the reason i looked is we seem to be going through the same life dilemas...maybe thats why we met up here. i have also been thinking of doing something with a support group but i would like to help single mothers preferably young but doesnt really matter. because lets face it, we are at least educated (not to mention gorgeous and intelligent) and its hard for us. colic babies or not, being a teenage mother would be so hard. and i would love to provide a support and maybe even career help so that they dont get stuck in a negative cycle that really limits their life choices. and see that way i wouldnt have to feel like i dont have enough choices and am bored with my job because i would be focused on someone else!! sounds good in theory anyway.

mom2 - to be part of our soap you need to at least have the occasional winge about you dh and tell us a few of his faults (if he doesnt have any make them up!):confused: we also dont want to hear that your children sleep through the night or have long naps in the day - at least until our darlings start to do the same.

peanut - how is the dad/stepwitch situation going this weekend. be cool and dont let her get you down. or we will have to hunt her down for you!

renee - where have you been? i hope the answer is that you have been off at that spa having an indulgent time.

[peanut]

Hi Guys: Well, it was an all out drag down fight today!!!! Ill return to that in a minute--want to keep you guys waiting for the juicy details. I think thats a great idea Supermum: at least, thank god, we are educated:thats one thing my parents always instilled in me. By the way, i am so jealous of where you live!!!!!!! Have you ever been this way????? Oh i have no problem telling my age: im 36 going on 2 with the way ive been behaving.

So heres the scoop: i had dad come get ds from my office but low and behold guess who shows up but friggin wife (witch hereon in). I was so angry, i asked dad why and he says he couldnt stop her. I was fuming so as theyn were leaving (luckily they missed my clients my 3 minutes) i ran out and i said (as i was crying) that all i have ever asked for is my space and his wife starts yelling at me that its a public place and she can go where she wants. I said its too bad she cant trustn him for a minute and she said hell NEVERcheat on her again. Then she says ive destroyed their lives and then he closes the window on me and leaves. Pause,, act Two:

So i call over there and tell him (at this point he sounds like hes been crying) that he pushed it way to far this time:she gets on the phone and starts yelling at me. I tell her i want to talk to bob about viusitation with my son......she keeps yelling, hanging up then getting back on the line yelling shes the innocent victim along with my son. I told her why dont you start holding your husband accountable. Anyways, we are revising the visitatioj once again: every other weekend, im dropping him off at THEIR house. I cant believe what an embarrassing moment that would have been if my client had walked in. I to9ld him no calls ANYMORE unless it specifically deals with drop off and pickup or $$$. Well, let me just say i got a glimpse into his life and i am so lucky im just with my son. May the two of them live in misery together. It didnt have to be this way but lines are crossed and yhou dont interfere with my professional life. So i now have to go back to work tomorrow since i got nothing done today:i was so upset. .........

Mom2: please give me some dirt or Chele: i know you must have some.

[supermum?]

Peanut

i know that the sitaution with the WITCH must have been hard on you but i just have to say "Well done!". she just showed how not in control of her husband and the situation she is and how miserable her life must be. can you imagine how he must be feeling about it all? good. he has made his bed now he can lie in it. she is such a pathetic excuse for a woman and for him to put up with it just shows that he is a completely gutless excuse for a man (which of course we already knew after you told us he chose jenny craig over the birth of your son). your life is so much better than theirs even with the sleepnessness and crying baby - or maybe because of it. you can hold your head high when you do see her now and remember how pathetic she is. dont let it upset you again because you are the one with everything important in your life! hope yur weekend gets better. have you and grayson managed to have any fun together lately??

i'm 32 but sometimes it just amazes me that i am a grown up with a mortgage and 2 kids and have to make important decisions etc.... where did the time go? and the idea of having a night out partying? give me 8 hours sleep instead (what is that i hear you say? i forget myself) anyday.

no i have never been to the states only Europe but have always wanted to. can i come stay with you if i visit?? chele - i am putting you on the itinery too!

[peanut]

Absolutely!!!!! I am the most boring person alive i have to warn you (but then again I am OLDER!!!!) . I live near th ebeach but from pictures i have seen from down under, we cant compare. I would love to travel to Europe! Did you ever take your other child traveling and at what age? Could you imagine taking Jacob on a flight? My nb would cause an emergency landing. I used to joke that he was the secret weapon we should have sent to Iraq-his crying would have even driven Saddam out of the country!!!!

Thank you for your encouragement once again. I do actually feel a little better. I am the lucky one-like you said, they can be miserable together. I just cant believe I was such a poor judge of character.

Wow--you are a little spring chicken. How old is your husband? The dad still has NB (remember, hes naked boy now) so I havent had time to do anything fun but now that im setting every other weekend limitation, I get my nb for mothers day!!! Or i guess you say mummies day!!!!

I am such a loser to be living in an apt at my age with myh ds. I really wish i could have given him better. I wont stop trying though. I think though youre right also about the fact that its because these were such difficult children, it makes us love them that much more. I cant stop kissing him every time i see him and i just keep falling more and more in love with him. But i am so selfish and want him all to myself. I just wish my parents would come around and want to be grandparents.....its really difficult to be all alone. I havent even heard from my so called friends. Im just having another pity party. Ignore me. I swear one of these days illle-mail you a really uplifting one. One that has spell check (yes i havent figured that one out either insert smiley with question marks above head)


I think Renee must be stuck in a mud bath since we havent heard from her. Better be good stories!!!

[supermum?]

I have lived in brisbane for the last 7 years and its about an hours drive to the beach. but i grew up in newcastle, not far from sydney and its a coastal town. unfortunately i have extremely white skin and dont tan at all so i dont really fit the bronzed aussie stereotype. i went o/s after i finished uni and worked as a nanny in the UK (like so many people do) and havent been back since. my dh has travelled a lot and in the last few years has made a few trips to europe with work but we have never travelled together. (by the way he is 40 - 8 years older than me.) he has been learning Russian and speaks it well and we were going to go for his 40th last year but i had jacob. he has been looking for work o/s as we would love to spend a few years somewhere else espescially while the kids are young. i would love them to grow up speaking another language. i think i would have to sedate jacob on a flight (although i have tried that at home and it hasnt worked) as he would drive me mental squirming the whole time.

i know what you mean about lack of parental support. my mother hardly spoke to me when i was pregnant as she had just married a guy in his early thirties (she is 52). of course she was in denial about being a grandmother as it made her seem old. even now she goes through stages where she will call and then we wont hear from her for a month or two. i have major issues about it but it certainly makes me want to be a better mum. i guess that's why i drive my boys insane telling them how much i love them 20 times a day.

wouldnt it be nice to all meet for a holiday at some place with a Kids Club so we could just indulge in all day pampering and shopping. oh to dream!!!

[peanut]

Supermum-do yo ever sleep?????? I just checked my e-mails and you are so goood about responding back quickly! Ok whitey-well have to give you a fake bake tan-we have machines here that can fake the results if a good tan-you must have gorgeous skin!

So youre husband is a cradle robber? My grandparents were from Russia but i never learned any thing- i think one of the best things we can do as moms is to try to teach our children to speak multi-languages. Im hoping ds will pick up spanish frojm the nannny esp. because it seems so necessary while living here in ca. I would love to travel back east (im from conn) and show my brother and his wife ds but i am way too afraid to travel with him. Also, where would i get the time? I was going to go in today but im still harboring that infection and am just too tired-im sure ill get reprimanded tomorrow but right now, i just dont care.

Your mom must look really good for her age! It must be that sun thing if your skin is inherited. I also think part of the reason that my mom refuses gto be called grandma is the age thing-im also having major issues. Mothers day is coming up and im still really angry with her abonding me during the pregnancy. I loke you, must tell ds how much i love him 20 mill times a day and i always say "kissesfor grayson" while i kiss him all over. I will never allow him to feel the emptiness i felt while growing up (my dad never said i love you). By the way, not too be toop nosy but what happended to your dad? Do you get along with the new stepdad? Sounds like you are the complete opposite of your mom (respon, mortgage, 2 kids, loving). Thats a good thing. You know the old adage: we are doomed to repeat the past unless we recognize it and consciously try to change it.

Speak to you soon!!!


p.s.what is the time diff. between you and me?

[mom2]

Hey everyone,

So you want to know a little more about me , huh. Well, right now we are living in Texas. We moved down here last August when I was 7 months pregnant with dd. What a trip that was!! It actually wasn't too bad because I flew with my ds and my sister came along to help.I HATE to fly though so I was a nervous wreck. Anyway, we moved from Illinois but I consider myself from Wisconsin. My dh and I both went to school at UW-Milwaukee and lived there for several years after graduating. I spent 8 years teaching toddlers and then taught second grade for three years then I became pregnant with my son and I have stayed home since.We hope to get back to the Midwest at some point because we have a lot of family there. My son is now 22 months and has always been an angel although the terrible twos are starting to take over. In a way I feel bad for him because it is almost like he doesn't even know why he upset sometimes, he just starts to cry. He was not a colicky baby---thank god or we wouldn't have had another!!

I am a very social person so staying at home has been tough.I am very lonely and miss our friends and family from up north. Thank goodness I found this website or I would have gone crazy with Sophie's colic and no one to talk to.Right now My dh and I are having a tough time too. I feel like there is so much distance between us since this whole colic thing started. We never really reconnected after Sophie was born. There is a lot of tension between us and I feel very angry all of the time. Part of this is because he thinks he is helping out more than he is. That said, he does do more than most men so I feel guilty for being angry and then I get mad again!!!Plus, I just don't think he fully understands how much I do even though I am just at home. With two kids under two my whole day is taken up by laundry, feeding, trying to get them to sleep, cooking, cleaning, etc. I am just exhausted and have no time for myself. In addition, I have gained weight and am out of shape. That is one thing I have always done is work out and I just don't have the time right now so I am pretty bummed about that too. I tend to eat when I am upset, happy or experience any other emotions!!! Ohhhh, this has turned into a whine session. SORRY! It sure does feel good to vent though--maybe I should tell my dh all of this!!I am afraid that if I started I wouldn't be able to stop!

Hope everyone had a good weekend and this week is good for everyone. Thanks for listening.

Hey peanut, I hope you start feeling better! Smother your little one with all of the affection you can it's the best thing for them!!!

Supermum, My brother spent some time in Sydney, Australia playing basketball for the Hawks(I think that was the team). He loved it and is looking to get back again someday.

Well, I am going to try to get some sleep. Take care all!

[Renee22]

Peanut, you¡¯re right in telling stepmom that she should hold her husband accountable for misbehaving. You should not allow yourself to be treated this way and be yelled at in public - next time she yells at you in public, tell her to behave like an educated person;). It looks like this man will only respect a no-nonsense lady. Whatever it is, make sure you don¡¯t lose out financially - limit the visitations - if he wants to see NB more often, make sure he up the $$ and abide by your terms and conditions (incl ¡°controlling his wife in public¡±). Penalise him for every time she yells at you!!:D

Hi all, wish I was stuck in that mud bath. I was with DS whole weekend and can¡¯t stop sniffing him. I love him more and more each day.:puh By the way, I¡¯ll be 34 soon.

Mom2, DH & I were yelling at each other when DS was born becos he thought he was doing more than I was. I had to cook, iron, breastfeed and do almost everything myself although I had a C-Section and was in pain even after standing for just 5 minutes. I hated him so much for being such a bas****. He would judge me harshly with words like ¡°not capable¡± etc. It was really a tough time - he still uses this word on me. I really want to divorce him:mad:!!

Supermum/Peanut, my mum passed away before I turned 11 and not having a mum is a real disadvantage - no one to counsel me and advise me on many things. You may feel that u lack parental support but you cannot expect moms to take over the your duty to care for your own children. Just tell them how much you LOVE & appreciate them (reverse psychology) and then they¡¯ll feel guilty about not helping you - they may even ¡°volunteer their services¡± after that!!:D

Chele, keep the blond jokes coming and hope your foot is much better!

[peanut]

Renee-glad to know youre ok-we were really fantasizing about the weekend you must have been having! What a let down. .....You know what i like about you (and our other little cohorts here) youre very straightforward and i appreciate that. Drop off of nb was fine-he was very sheepish and apoliguzed. I just said that doesnt cut it. But yes, limitation is limited now and if it happens again, nb stays with me for the weekend and he loses out. It must have been so hard for you to grow up without your mom. Were you close to your dad? Im teaching myself to realize noone is going to rescue me so instead of having a pity party today, i tried new things with nb today. I took him out in that Baby Bjorn (but it still covers his eyes when he looks out so i had to hold it down the entire time which was a pain) and he loved it. I know what you mean about the sniffing thing. I bury my face in nb--yum yum yum. Were you serious about divorcing your husband? I wish that you and Mom2 could trade places with your husbands so that they would see what its all about. They so clueless sometimes i am so happy (ok alot of the time) i am all alone. .....even though it can be lonely.

Mom2: you are a wild woman! When do you think youll go back to work? When I was staying at home I swear I didnt know what I was supposed to be doing during that time. I really needed to tag around someone like you to figure it out. I did buy a mango for the first time and peeled it myself! I am so excited---i small step towards mommyhood (sorry supermum, mummhood).

Keep in touch everyone (chele-what are you doing blondie????)

Mo

[supermum?]

hey guys

Peanut - we are 10 hours in front so when you are up late on the computer when you should be in bed i am probably being slack at home or at work and checking on the site for replies (no work isnt boring at all....) i meant to say before that i have taken zac on an aeroplane about 18 times since he was born but its only a 2 hour flight. not as bad as you would think. jacob went on at christmas and we survived - just. my mum is a techer and divorced my dad about 10 years ago. smart woman but the guy she marries is a complete loser. drinks everyday and hangs out at the pub. doesnt even have a job. mum used to say she was a feminist and justifies this relationship by saying that she is in control etc. in fact she is miserable (wont admit it) and trashes herself ever night. she knows that i dont approve of her lifestyle. my dad is remarried and came to visit at easter (they both live 10 hours drive away) and we talked about my mum and basically agreed that when i was little she was great (she went back to work when i was 1 month old and only stayed home with her 3rd child) but basically has always been self centred. so Renee while i would love to try the reverse psychology unfortunately my mum wouldnt respond to the guilt trip. but hopefully this will all make me a better mum.

as for husbands, i cant believe how many kids at zac's preschool have parent who have broken up. its just so hard. i think all women have the same problems with the guys, they are just never ever going to pull their weight. i think that we just have to try and manage the best we can. its not like another guy is going to be any better, we just have to decide what we can live with. i think that's why for me working part time is the best solution. i am not stuck home all day with no adult stimulation, i can put forward the arguement 'but i work too' and i still get quality time with the kids. it certainly helps though have you great gals to talk to otherwise i would be yelling at him a lot more to get out my frustrations.

mom2 - know what you mean about out of shape. i am going to try really hard from today to lose weight. i have about 45lb to lose.

peanut - were you close to your family before you had grayson? do you talk to your brother? i am lucky that one of my brothers moved here to be near my kids and because our mum is so slack we have a really strong bond.

[Renee22]

Hi Peanut, glad to hear that you tried new things with NB (naked boy). Sometimes I wish that I am a single mother, so I won't have to put up with DH's nonsense!:puh I am financially independent and do not need him at all. I always thought that I'd be much better off without him and I always have thoughts about divorcing him. I think it's good that you don't have NB's dad to put up with, otherwise he may just drive you up the wall as he cannot be trusted to be out of the house alone (hv another affair).;)

Supermum, sad to hear that your mum is now married to a complete loser. U should still tell her that you love her and appreciate her without the intention of using this to help you out with the kids. Now that we are all mothers, we can understand how much how parents love us.:cool:

Mothers day is near! Time to remember the love our mothers gave us! Appreciate them while they are still around!:D :D

[peanut]

Howdy from the west coast gal-chele must be snoring up a storm since we havent heard from her!!!

Supermum: youre mom sounds like shes having a hard time admitting shes growing older. But if she is unhappy, she cant run away forever (which i what i think she is doing). I think each of us eventually has to deal with our demons no matter how hard we try to run. I know that all of my life i have-i have isolated myself purposely and grew apart from my family (and brother) in the process. But it was my brother who was responsible for bringing my parents back to me and i will love him for that all my life (even though were notreally close). 18 Times on an airplane-i guess the grommets in the ears help with the flying right??? SMart thinking about the part-time work.
Yes, I am up superlate tonight-too much on my mind i guess.


Renee: I could never be married to that scumbag! I would never trust him ever-he will do it again. I hate that i have to have him help me and take nb to the ped. gi for his follow up. I dont want to speak one word to him so i figure ill just fax him a reminder and what meds to pick up and arrange times.

[Renee22]

Hi Peanut, faxing to NB's dad should be fine for the moment - he should be able to tell that you are p***ed with him. Let him taste your "don't mess with me" attitude.;) Being married such a man will only make you age faster! Consider yourself fortunate that you don't have to live with such a partner.:D

[supermum?]

hi guys
yeah i think my mum has some major issues probably from childhood but has never dealt with them. and she wont admit she is miserable but says things like 'its my lot in life to struggle, that's my journey' and other crap like that. i think that she thought she wasnt happy with my dad but its worse now. of course she probably thinks its better than being alone. i just get sad because when she is in mum mode she is wonderful it just doesnt last. at easter she drove 8 hours up this way to go camping with loser friends but do you think she could have arranged to meet? no. but she did send easter presents. AHHH. i just have to accept i guess that her best isnt good enough for what i need and leave it at that. but at least thinking about it makes me deal with my own behaviour so at least i hopefully wont be repeating old mistakes - like taking up with guys that treat me crap because i dont think anyone will love me enough to marry me. thank god i got through that one.

i know what you mean renee about being single and hoe it would sometimes be easier. i spend so much time on my own with the kids on weekends, taking them to the park, we go to the markets etc, but dh hates all that and doesnt think you should have to entertain the kids (his parents are to blame for this attitude). it often makes me so resentful i think that at least if we were apart he would have to take the kids every 2nd weekend to give me a break.

is your mothers day on the 11th too? (i know somtimes you celebrate at different times to us). peanut we mustnt be 10 hours ahead - next time you post say what time it is. now 6.50pm and am about to put jacob to bed. bye.

[mom2]

Hey there,
Can't believe it is Monday morning already!! Where did the weekend go and why didn't I get out of the house more!!Oh well.
Supermum, maybe we should try to support each other with our attempts to get in shape. I have been out walking lately but it is so boring! I need some music and a hard workout. I used to go to kickboxing and step aerobics but we can't afford for me to go back to the gym right now. What I am going to look into though is see if I can just get a class pass and at least do that.What types of things do you enjoy?
Peanut, I am hoping to go back to work, at least part-time when the kids start school. So when Sophie starts preschool I would like to find a half-day kindergarten program and go back to teaching. It seems like a long ways off but I am sure it will come sooner than I can believe. I might start taking a night class to make sure my certification doesn't lapse.
Well, I haven't had my coffee yet so I can't think of anything else to say.I'm sure I will be back later today. See ya!

[Renee22]

Hi all, Mothers Day is on 11th. Hope you have wonderful activities lined up. The Firm has issued everyone a personal thermometer & we¡¯re supposed to record our temperatures 2x a day! My dad-in-law is going for surgery tomorrow at that dreaded SARs hospital and if my mom-in-law accompanies him there, we¡¯ll be keeping DS away from her for 10 days!:conf2

Peanut, you can have a fun-filled day alone with NB (NB¡¯s dad & stepmom can have their miserable time together). You can focus all your love:love3 and attention on NB without having to bother about anyone else.:party6

Mom2, hope you find a teaching job that you like and fits your schedule. I go on an eating binge when I am upset or have hormonal imbalance! I can understand how exhausted you are - I have no time for myself either!:rolleyes:

Chele, how¡¯s work? I saw that you came online and read our posts but I did not see any posts from you. U must be really tired and busy!

Supermum, your mum needs you more than ever, especially now with that complete loser (although she won¡¯t admit it). Give her a call and tell her how much u love/appreciate her or do something to really make her day. After all, she had done her duty as your mom.;)

[chele]

Hi gals - I'm back. Sounds like everyone kept busy over the weekend. Sorry I didn't get a chance to check in, boy was I behind. I actually printed our post out today so I could get caught up and try to make some side notes so I knew what I wanted to type about tonight.

Mom2, I am finally not the only one with a girl, Yeah. I was really beginning to feel ganged up on - Not being in the law field - blond- and had the only dd in the group. And you are originally from the mid-west, HA we have one up on them.:D Oh I can relate to the reconnection thing. My DH and I have been going thru similar things. He had a real hard time with DD's colic fits. To the point of saying "her screaming goes right through my head". I wanted to leave and never come back! But when I think how hard it would be to be a single mom(peanut is my hero) and I do love him. He actually told me one day "Look how much I do. It is more than most men." My reply was "Well, I didn't marry most men did I? I married you and I expect more." I think I cried then and he softend and now he really tries to help more. He is a good guy and he tries to take care of me.

Renee - Hi, so you spent the weekend with your ds. I hope it was a good weekend, no problems. Is his tummy getting better. I looked up the formula that you use. It is only sold in Asia or Eastern Countries. It looked good though. Sorry there was no spa involved in your weekend. I was really hoping that was what you were doing. Oh, and I do the same with DD with the smelling and kisses, when you say "I love you" to her she smiles really big, and I melt.

Supermum - You are a better person than me. I am not sure how well I would do with teenagers - if I remember correctly that is the age when we know everything. Although having a baby might have humbled some of them. Aren't we noble people wanting to help others from some of our own experiences:)
You must be more like your Dad than your mom cuz she doesn't sound anything like you do when you type to us. You seem like a very sincere person. Reluctantly, I tell you that I am 19. I think that I have started dreaming about this conversation. I swear that I read Peanut was 36 but I couldn't find it to save my life today. Peanut how old are you? Lie if you have to. I did:D Ok Ok I'm 33. Oh my goodness, have you gals noticed how many people are viewing our posts? There is over 820 viewings. I sometimes forget that others can read our posts. I mean I know we joke about being a soap opra but wow that is a lot of viewing.

Peanut, peanut, peanut - where to begin with you. You are a little spitfire aren't you. OK as for the checking email from a remote computer. Go to the website i.e. yahoo.com, ATT.com ect. and look for the email link. If you want , you can private message me your service provider and I will check it out and give you specifics. As for the comment of "being a loser cuz you don't own a house". You don't want to own a home - not in your situation, I don't want to own in my situation, but we are trying to buy a new one. Anyway, being a single mom - the best place for you to be is in an apartment. If something breaks or konks out(technical terms again:puh ) you are not responsible for it. You have a landlord to take care of things and pay for the up keep.. That is way better than having to buy a new water heater or something when it breaks. Never feel bad about living in an apt. you have a roof over your head. That is all that matters. Beside you live in CA, no one can afford to buy a house. The real estate is rediculous, worse than here. Maybe you should become a lawyer to the stars - you could make a ton being a divorce lawyer or bailing them out for drug possesion.:D :D Ok the baby bjorn - doesn't it fold in - like down his tummy? or is he even lower than that. Peanut, good for you for sticking up for yourself to his wife. I think we need to come up with a good nickname for him, for this post I am going to refer to the dad as BJ(Big Jerk) cuz I can't think of anything clever. BJ really needs to keep WW(Witchey Woman) away from you. I can understand her psychosis, but you do not need to see it. Can you talk to BJ and get him to understand that things with NB are between you and him not WW too. Yes she is a part of his life, but not yours. She should not be trying to control your life. You need to get this under control before it starts to affect NB. And it will. Kids are very aware of what is going on around them. Tell BJ that it is for NB and maybe he will understand. Oh and I have to ask - not only did you get mixed up with an older guy, but he is a fat older guy who hangs out at Jenny Craig? Were you an alcoholic who constantly wore beer goggles?:D (like how I use those smilies - are you jealous?:puh You know you are, come on give it up:puh - just teasing you) I have to tease you I wasn't around for a few days. Well, it is time to sign off. Happy day;)

[supermum?]

Oh chele no wonder we miss you so much you are just too damm funny. although, after being slack for so many days you really owed us a good one.

mom2 - i had 7 months at home on maternity leave and had great plans to go to the gym when zac was at preschool and of course didnt so now that i have no time at all i need to do something quick and easy. we have a teadmill at home so i really just need to make myself use it- at least for more than a day at a time. i am also on a protein diet which i went on before i fell pregnant (i have poly cystic ovarian syndrome) and besides losing heaps of weight helps control the insulin. its a killer to stick to though. maybe each week though we can check in with each other and say how well we are doing!

i think that a put a big jinx on our relationship since i started complaining about men. we were getting on fine before but now he is driving me insane. jacob just woke and is foul so must go. be back soon. au revoir.

[peanut]

Ok guys-make me plug in my friggin printer so I can respond to everyone!!!!!

Supermum: its now 9:50 a.m. but the posts always have different times. Heres another one of those things i cant figure out. So the hair i lost is starting to come in blonde and im not kidding. It must be chele rubbing off on me but sounds like i should have been the blonde. Hey chele-maybe you were just meant to stand out from the rest of us-you little blonde beauty, And yes, im 36.I think im oler than all of you and have the most growing up to do.

Supermum: do you think your mom regretted leaving your dad (or did yourdad leave your mom???). n Mothers day is on the 11th here.....

Renee: What will you do if your mother in law cant help? Do you have alternative day care you can use? Oh NB and i will have a blast!!!! Im vowing to do one new thing with him a week---try to make up for the previous time i have lost and i am so happy BJ does not have him every weekend (ok chele-could you have come up with a pg13 rating??!!!!!Or maybe the inuendo still hasent hit (you know im just joking of cousre...got to keep the fans entertained). I just lef t the message with his secretary to tell him to bring the bottles and toys and pick him up. Tomorrow i will have the receptionsit give NB to BJ. I cant stand to see him. I think I needed this weekend to happen to prove that he never loved me as he cant even stand up for me one minute.

I bet whenever someone sees the reflux posting they delete it and say those girls are at it again. But this is so much fun.......


Chele: BJ looks like a monster ( or at least thats what the girls called him growing up-). I am used to going out with the really good looking self-centered men and thought if i chose someone ugly, he wouldnt be self-centered. WHAT THE HE__ WAS I THINKING!!!!ALL MEN ARE SELFISH!!! Now, i have to worry about what NB will look like!!!! PLus, his personality (great sarcastic wit) and position he holds in court (POWWER) also attracted me. By the way, how can you tell how many people are viewing our posts??? Youre right about the apt thing-can you imagine me in a house???? My memroies of being in the kitchen (trying to cook)was a few years ago when i singed my hair (dont ask me how-can we say open flame) That Baby bjorn is killing my back! I did fold it down a little in the front and he loves it but gosh, could it hurt even more??? Thanks for the compliment. I took NB in for a recheck this mornging and the peditricaian said NB and I looked relax for the first time-------I am. Its the letting go.

Mom2: I know what you mean about the certification: im going to have to do an all weekend seminar to get all of my continuing education in next year. COuld you take a fun hoobby at night just to get out?

All right gang-gotta go. HUGS.

[supermum?]

i have no idea how i am going to work out the whole time difference thing, way too complicated for me and i'm not even blonde. but hey, that's why i studied law not maths. will have to get dh to work it out for me.

peanut - i am pretty sure my mum regretted leaving my dad for a long time. i think that she blamed him for the problems in her life (and he is not perfect let me tell you, major control freak) but being on her own didnt make all her problems go away. so you went for the ugly powerful one hey!!! that'll teach you. if they are all going to be bastards you may as well have something good to look at.....and i remember you saying how you want to be independent so you dont need his money. stupid idea. take as much of it as you can and put it away for grayson. if he takes after his DAD you may have some serious terapy bills. not to mention the impact the Wicked witch will have on him. so what colour do you think NB's hair will be? brown with blonde roots like yours? if BJ is only having NB every second weekend, who is going to look after him when you work on saturdays?

and being the gossip lover that i am, i would love to be reading OUR SOAP even if i wasnt a part of it. even dh has been asking about you all....(think he really needs to get a job).

peanut it is such a relief to meet someone who is less domesticated than i am. the house is usually messy, i only iron when i need to wear it, i dont bake, cant even sew a hem, the baby gets baby food out of the jar - but hey, i never said that i was a domestic goddess. that's why i have brains. my apologies to those domestic goddesses that i may have insulted then, but if you know me (and in this respect i take after my mother) you would understand. i clean when i have to and make sure the clothes are always clean, they are just often in the basket waiting to be put in peoples rooms. but hey, if i actually got some help around the house it might be a different story.

I are so proud of you peanut - relaxed!!! you wont know yourself in 6 months time.

[Renee22]

Hi All, seems like we have another blondie here (Peanut) besides Chele.;)

Hey Peanut, does the song ¡°I¡¯ve Never Been to Me¡± by Charlene describe you (except that you made love to a monsterous jerk:love1 instead of a preacher)? Sometimes I feel this song describes my life (incl the preacher part);)! Hey, u leaving NB with BJ¡¯s secretary for collection - I can¡¯t help but think he¡¯ll collect the secretary instead (I won¡¯t be surprised)!.....Sex, Lies & Videotape.... what our post lack is the videotape!;) Supermum is right that you have to get $$ from BJ - find a way to bring him to the cleaners! I am sure NB will inherit BJ¡¯s POWER, sacarstic wit and wealth (plus his entire estate!), but will take after you in all the others. DH will look after DS when we stay away from mom-in-law - he does a great job and DS is now very attached to him. DH is the domesticated ¡°goddess¡± here - he loves cooking and he cleans the floor & his own toilet. The last time I cooked, DH had diarrhea for 3 days - that¡¯s how good I am!:D

Chele blondie, my DS drinks much better now (we add cereal in every bottle) and sure can wallop a whole bowl of cereal! The FRISO range of infant formula/cereals is from The Netherlands and it is very much recommended here. DS looks like me (fair, moon shaped eyes and long eyelashes) but his gait and style is like DH. I put off going to that spa becos of SARs - muscle ache is one of the symptoms.

Mom2, you poor lonely socialite! You have sacrificed so much for your family - hope things between you & DH are improving.

Supermum, I can understand why your mum left that major control freak dad of yours. DH was like this too and it made me resentful!! She is entitled to her freedom - maybe she thought that being with a younger man would make her be in control (and not be controlled).:conf2

[L&M's Mom]

Ok Peanut - I just got caught up on the recent happenings. I've been snooping in for a while. What a soap opera - ya'll entertain the heck out of me.

So, back to you Peanut. Please tell me that the witch is not acting that way around your child. If she is throwing those tantrums in his presence, that needs to stop immediately. I'm sure it may be hard for her to swallow how your sweetheart came to be, but she needs to not take it out on him or around him. Otherwise, she needs to get the he_ _ out when he is around. You can have that set forth in the visitation agreement. Dad can either get control of the witch or pay you without having visitation. Of course, I know you need that break. But, it's a good threat!!! (By the way, at my work, instead of wicked wicked witch, we call people bicked bicked _itches!!!) Sounds like that is what she is!!!

I was glad to hear about your job. See, things are working out. You got a good job and your nb is starting to settle down.

[supermum?]

OK Chele, i know you are on at the moment and as i havent heard from you in a while i thought you might like these.

Blonde jokes for our blonde friend (oh Peanut, you kind of fall into this category now too).

There were three women, a Brunette, a Red Head, and a Blonde. They all worked together at an office.
Every day they noticed that their boss left work a little early. So one day they met together and decided that today when the boss left, they would all leave early too.
The boss left and so did they. The Brunette went home and straight to bed so could get an early start the next morning. The Red Head went home to get in a quick work out before her dinner date. The Blonde went home and walked into the bedroom. She opens the door slowly and saw her husband in bed with her boss, so she shut the door and left.
The next day, the Brunette and the Red Head are talking about going home early again. They ask the Blonde if she wants to leave early again.
"No," she says, "yesterday I nearly got caught!"

Q: Why do blondes have more fun?
A1: Because they don't know any better.
A2: They are easier to keep amused.

Q: Why does a blonde only change her baby's diapers every month?
A: Because it says right on it "good for up to 20 pounds."

Talk soon.

[chele]

Welcome newcomer There is always room for another lady of the sleepless evenings. And from Texas no less. If you come you have to dish. We need details, cuz the 4 of us were getting a little boring, that is how we roped in Mom2. She came to give us a little spice, so come on paprika, spill it.

Renee I love this color thing you do. You have a little computer geek in you too. Yeah.
I think I can fun with this.

Supermum I didn't mean to slack, we went to my brother's over the weekend to celebrate birthdays and watch little league baseball and eat a bunch of food. It was fun, my nephews were great, they love their new little cousin, fighting over who got to hold her. I wanted to check my email, but my hubby keeps teasing me that you guys are my online boyfriend, and I thought he might start thinking I was obsessed if I kept checking over the weekend when we were supposed to be visiting. So I will have to keep calling you all guys since your are my online boyfriend. I told him " are you kidding I barely have you trained in, do you think I want to start trying to train another one?" Yeah, he didn't realize I had been training him, he was shocked. I don't know why, didn't he know that what all the nagging is all about?:confused: Ok I found a website that is giving me the current time in Bisbane, Queensland, Australia is 12:11 pm on May 7 and it is 9:11 pm May 6 here in Illinois so that is what 15 hours ahead of here and Peanut I am 2 hours ahead of you. I know geek blond, luckily I am already married, cuz I don't think I would find anyone to put up with my geekiness.

Peanut so you want to be blond like me huh, well boy is your life going to get fun. Can't you tell blonds always have more fun. My life is a riot. I can hardly keep up with myself. woo woo. Oh by the way, I had a complete blond moment today - it took me 6 hours to figure out what the inuendo was. I think I laughed out loud(lol) at work, then realized I was at work and not supposed to be on the internet. Wow the big 36 huh, I don't really consider that older. You need to change you "senior member" it makes you sound like you are at post menopausal age and you aren't hence the baby you are holding. If you are going to be "senior member" I want you to know that you will not be having blond moments, they will have to be senior moments. I am glad to hear you and NB are relaxing and things are going a little smoother. Attitude is everything right.

Ok I have to brag a little bit, because it isn't going to happen again. DD slept through the night last night. She is on the best baby on my block list. The little sweet heart. I just want to swallow her hole, she is so cute. Gotta go.

[chele]

You mean it doesn't hold 20 lbs? UhOh:puh

Very funny, I like.

[supermum?]

Chele - i am so not happy with you....what do you mean she slept through!Chele Chele (OK i want to join in with the colours too!). I should be getting the most sleep as mine is the oldest. OK he did sleep through a few times months ago, but not any more. always seems to be in some kind of pain. so did you ever tell us what your dh does for a living? is he a computer geek like you? sounds like you had a fun weekend. i feel really bad for my boys as their cousins live in New Zealand so they never get to see them. he loves the idea of having a big extended family though - but i am not going to move to NZ to enjoy it.

15 hours - that was far too hard for me. thanks. that means i get to experience christmas before you guys!!! and mothers day. and what happens if something happens one day but we actually think its happened on different days!! OK so i really should start doing some work shouldnt i?

[peanut]

You guys ar eso funny-im laughing out loud and am trying not to wak eup NB. By the way, sorry Chele, L& M is in law too-you just cant stay in this group (insert smiley). But seriously, lets see if i can address everyone:

(1) L & M: I think the bicked b---has been stifled for so long that she finally had to let it out. I was going to request a 730 evaluationm but we were trying to stay out of the court system .The BB reminds me of a dog that has to stake out his territory, pee and then leave:thats exactly what she does. She has no desir eto ever enter my work nor house. I am caught in another emergency situation at work and hop i dont have ot go in on sat and get him to tak eNB. The dad is so cheap its not even funny.
But i do have ot say he takes care of his son-he doesnt give a damn about me. I need to get some raises b/c i am terrified hell go for custody in two years when he has to stop paying me. But for now i cant focus on that.

So today i had to throw a preacher man out of my office as he was yelling and starting to lunge at me:quite an interesting time. I returned about 60 phone calls today (in my oneday of absence) and everyone was yelling and bitching. One person threatening to report me to the state bar, Lovely. So i have taken two of my friends sleeping pills and may be hading off toi sleep before i finish this but i wil;l do my best/

Renee: Im so glad your dh has bonded with your son. Isnt it beautifiul when you see that? I have to admit that when bj took nb to the doctor and then to his office and took care of him while i worked, it really was nice. When the dad dropped him off nb was just so happy to be with him (but even haooier when he saw me ha ha ha). But i know its not a competition but i feel like it. And i still need to ask the dad legal quesions because theres noone at work to help me-im it and i dont know what im doing.


Chele: i am a senior: i noticed the hair growing in isnt blonde its gray and the rest of the hair at the roots (whateve little is left) is gray!!!!!!!!(or is it spelled grey????). ANyways,

Supermum: you crack me up. Yes, my office thinks im the life of the party-when i get in all hell breaks loose, yelling, kicking, screaming (ok only yelling) . I asked eveyone to confirm that he was ugly and the office split in half (i think though its because he was all dressed up and you know men look better in a suit). But even the dad jokes about how ugly he is and how th ebaby will need plastic surgery. But at least i got confirmation that i was CRAZY ......andthat i could do much better (which i guess i just needed to hear). I think its alot easier being dumped by a goregous guy than an ugly one. There is no next time itherwise iwould say id go for the looks but been there and one that. Well heres one more juciy tidbit ill sahre, but dont tell: my ex fiance is now a friggin famous porn star. Lovely. He was a model the same time i was and hs career really took off i guess you could say. Ive been doing research on the internet on him and he got married (yes, they marry after they break up with me) and has won all types of awards. God i really do pick them.
Oh-ca you sew on a button? Ive got them laying around and just have to learn enough spanish to ask my nany if she can sew it back on. I got to go to the cleaners ordinarily for this.
Lets see, how else can i enterain yo0u guys. My life is so boring now....

[supermum?]

why didnt my colours work???? i am a computer geek failure.

[peanut]

What colors???

[peanut]

Supermum: are these where your billable hours come in? Checking in with us. 15 hours ahead: is that what you said? I can think of worse places to live than new zealnd.Oh boy my typing is getting real bad-mut be the pills kicking in., Chow,

[supermum?]

Peanut - again you have completly distracted me from my work cause you are just so much more interesting and entertaining. A PORN STAR!!!! Oh my god that is funny. i hope the sex was great. say did he have a hairy back and a big...ah apendage?? that's kind of mandatory isnt it? maybe you inspired him in some way to take up his new career!!

as for the BUG (big ugly guy) i understand how much more atractive a guy can look in a suit and what an aphrodesiac power can be but 'hello' the guy sounds like a complete loser. what an ego boost it must have been for him getting a spunky. gorgeous and intelligent chick like you (not to mention one with fabulous international internet friends). i can imagine how depressing it must have been being dumped. but really, he just knew how inferior he was and wanted to get in before you dumped him. i am such a good amateur psychologist that i think we need to work this attraction out to save you from future embarassments. i think you have some serious issues with the types of guys you attract - maybe you need to tell us more about your relationships with your parents. we know that they told you to let the bug have nb (so caring, warm, supportive of them). but we need to know more. as far as i can tell, its their fault that you decided to mate with the beast in the first place.

Gey hair - ha ha ha. although the good news is that your IQ just went up 50 points (compared to the blonde moments).
i can sew on a button if i have to but i cant guarantee that it will stay on or that i will even have the correct coloured thread. usually whatever i have that is close enough i use. pathetic i know. but did i tell you that i have taken up mosaics? you know, smashing tiles and gluing them onto mirrirs etc well i have done a few and they look pretty good so i have other talents that occupy my time (when i get it that is).

[Renee22]

Wow! So much to catch up on even though I was away from the office for just half a day! L&M¡¯s mom, Welcome! I like the term BB. You know, I used to call this girl I dislike ¡°BOH¡± - *itch on Heat!! But BB does not fall into this category - BJ should be renamed BOH - Beast on Heat!!:love1 Peanut, does this best describe him?:D

Hey, I am a brunette (I am not pure Chinese) and have Scottish roots.;) I have not heard of any brunette jokes, so if there are, pls share.

Peanut! Your ex is a PORN STAR-how interesting. he must hv a big fat hairy hotdog! Any pics to show us in his best porn pose?:D I used to buy Playboy mag years ago when I was in Australia and loved seeing all these playmates. I imagine you to be 5¡¯4¡±, slim (before birth), shoulder length hair and crystal deep set eyes & a 34C (any bigger and I will start suspecting u hv been a playmate before). I am sure the court will not allow BOH to have full custody of NB, you are his mother. Perhaps you can start recording down, even videtape & hv pics taken of BB¡¯s & BOH¡¯s bad behavior (perhaps a porn pose with another partner?)- at least this will constitute enough reasons why BOH should not have full custody of NB (bad influence for upbringing etc).:cool: Perhaps u can spend your spare time looking up child maintenance cases of those rich & famous who have children out of wedlock.

Supermum, I wouldn¡¯t mind mating with a RICH beast like what Peanut did, provided he is not a BOH, always looking for other *itches on heat!:love1 I'll just have to give him a wax down there if he behaved in such a heaty manner!

Hey all! My DS sleeps thru the night (now, I must be making all of you jealous!:D) and he is perfectly fine now. I am finding him a bit too heavy for me (I¡¯m only 1.5m, remember?), he¡¯s such a sweetie pie

Chele, you¡¯re the only one who seems to be happily married - I guess blondes do hv more fun!:party1

Whatever happened to Mom2? Anyone heard from her?

[chele]

Good morning all, well by the time you all get this it might be morning where you are it might not. Supermum, your colors worked when I read my post. You are a geek. You can get over not being happy with me, DD got up at 2:50 am and decided she wanted to stay up. At 4:10 I finally decided to shower and put her in the bouncy seat while I showered, she was asleep in like 30 seconds of the water coming on. Which was frustrating cuz I wanted to be asleep too. After shower I layed back down for an hour which was a mistake, cuz now I am cranky and ended up being late to work, well later than I like to be and I have to leave early to pick up dd from daycare. What about Peanut? I remember her saying NB was sleeping through night and if did wake up he woke around 11:00pm, how wrong is that? I would love for DD to wake at 11, then I would feel like I was getting a full night rest. Sorry Peanut didn’t mean to throw you under a bus, but extremely jealous. (is there scandle forming between the friends? For our soap readers) We have to be on different time zones otherwise how would Santa Clause get to everyone’s house in one night? By the way I really like BUG, it makes me giggle, Renee’s description fits to but, I don’t know BUG seems to fit. Thanks for helping with clever nicknames. My dh does Sales. He is pretty good at it, he got me to buy into him. No he is good at what he does, very personable. He sells beverages, everything from juice to coffee to smoothies to frozen drinks(like daiquiris, margaritas etc.) He has to travel with his job a lot, maybe that is why we are happy, no we are just good friends too. His friends can’t believe that I don’t throw a fit when he travels, but what is the point. I don’t have that much energy and we knew when he took the job that he would travel. It also makes him try harder when he is home to help out. So it is OK. I feel really lucky, although my family is all over the states now I have a really great support system with them. My mom has been so helpful with everything with dd. She actually beems when around her. No it is not her first grandchild it is her 9th but I am her only girl and it just means a lot to her I guess. I am very lucky. I know you are thinking then why did you come here in the first place. Well because you guys can relate better than people who haven’t really been around colicky kids.and I like you, and I don’t feel like it is so much my fault anymore after coming to this website.

Peanut, I don’t understand, why would BUG have to stop paying you in 2 years? :confused: I still don’t think he can get custody, unless he can get you labeled as an unfit mother, which it doesn’t sound like you are. Although you might want to quit taking other peoples meds. That doesn’t look to good. Are you having trouble sleeping? I would think you would be so exhausted all the time. You must be one of those energy people. I am not. I used to have all kinds of trouble sleeping, now I can even fall asleep before my dh which is something I never used to do.

I try to sew. I made my dd a blanket, it turned out ok. I also tried to make her a bib – that was scary. I had to give it to my mom to fix. It looked like a blind person sewed it. No actually a drunk person – a blind person would have sewn streaighter. It fraid the first time I washed it. It was very sad. My mom mended it. She does all that crafty stuff. Supermum does smashing the tiles help relieve frustration? WE always knew you were talented and gifted and beautiful. You have to be you are on the Soap “As the Colicky World Turns”

Renee, Q. Do you know the brunette’s mating call?
A. Did that damn blond go home yet?
And yep us blonds do have more fun.
:angel3 type at you all later.

[supermum?]

OK guys i hate to be serious for a moment but i have something important to tell you all.....i am actually a 6ft4 single male who just joined this site to meet women and .....yeah right, like i wish. no but seriously now, chele just so you cant outdo me, ds slept from 7pm to 6.10am last night (do i hear cheers and applause??). OK so its been months since that happened and it was probably a one off but at least it happened. so sorry to hear about your crappy night. i think that's one of the hardest things for me with little one's, the lack of sleep.

Chele you are truly a cool gal and i really admire that. while it must be hard having your dh away its great that you just make the most of it and dont nag at him about it. i used to do that when my dh went away a lot but i have gotten much better. in fact i kind of like having the place to myself when he is away, i sleep better, can watch whatever i want on TV and i dont get annoyed that he isnt helping. I'm pretty impressed also with your sewing abilities.....keep at it. i am sure that you will eventually make something that doesnt fall apart in the wash. i must be hard if your mum is so great at the whole domestic stuff. mine used to make us clothes that would fall apart at the hems (or be lopsided and 2 sizes too big) before the end of the season. so i dont feel like i failure for not following in her footsteps.

Renee this whole brunette joke thing is a lot harder than i thought...will have to get back to you. scottish hey?? me too. and some Irish (which explains my really white skin).

Hope you gals get a great nights sleep while i am slaving away at work!!!!

[supermum?]

A non domestic goddess friend sent me this, hope you enjoy..

Are you a good housekeeper or a Real Woman?
>The Good Housekeeping Way #1
>Stuff a miniature marshmallow in the bottom of an ice-cream cone to prevent
>ice cream drips.
The Real Women's Way:
>Just suck the ice cream out of the bottom of the cone, for God's sake. You
>are probably lying on the couch with your feet up eating it anyway.
>
>The Good Housekeeping Way #2
>To keep potatoes from budding, place an apple in the bag with the potatoes.
>The Real Women's Way:
>Buy Deb mashed potato mix and keep it in the pantry for up to a year.
>
>The Good Housekeeping Way #3
>When a cake recipe calls for flouring the baking tin, use a bit of the dry
>cake mix instead and there won't be any white mess on the outside of the
>cake.
>The Real Women's Way:
>The Cheese Cake Shop sell cakes. They even do decorated versions.
>
>The Good Housekeeping Way #4
>If you accidentally over-salt a dish while it's still cooking, drop in a potato slice.
>The Real Women's Way:
>If you over salt a dish while you are cooking, that's just tough. Please recite with me the Real Women's motto: "I made it and you will eat it and I don't care how bad it tastes."
>
>The Good Housekeeping Way #5
>Wrap celery in aluminium foil when putting in the refrigerator and it will keep for weeks.
>The Real Women's Way:
>It could keep forever. I don't eat it.

>The Good Housekeeping Way #6
>Brush some beaten egg white over piecrust before baking to yield a beautiful glossy finish.
>The Real Women's Way:
>Sara Lee frozen pie directions do not include brushing any egg whites over the crust so I don't do that.
>
>The Good Housekeeping Way #7
>Cure for headaches: Take a lime, cut it in half and rub it on your
>forehead. The throbbing will go away.
>The Real Women's Way Cure for headaches:
>Take a lime, cut it in half and drop it into a mug of tequila. Drink the Tequila. You might still have the headache, but at least you will be too drunk to care.

And finally the most important tip -
>The Good Housekeeping Way #9
>Freeze leftover wine into ice cubes for future use in casseroles and sauces.
>The Real Women's Way:
>Leftover wine - What leftover wine?

Peanut - hope you can relate to a few of these...i know i can.

[L&M's Mom]

Thought you guys might get a kick out of this.


In my next life, I'd like to come back as a bear.

In this life I'm a woman.

When you're a bear, you get to hibernate. You do nothing but sleep for six months. I could deal with that.

Before you hibernate, you're supposed to eat yourself stupid. I could deal with that, too.

When you're a girl bear, you birth your children(who are the size of walnuts) while you're sleeping and wake to partially grown, cute cuddly cubs. I could definitely deal with that.

If you're a mama bear, everyone knows you mean business. You swat anyone who bothers your cubs. If your cubs get out of line, you swat them too. I could deal with that.

If you're a bear, your mate EXPECTS you to wake up growling. He EXPECTS that you will have hairy legs and excess body fat.

Yep , I'm gonna be a bear.

[peanut]

once again you guys keep me laughing!!!! I think i am already a bear with the eating thing L & M!!!!!

Supermum: Mosaics: how pretty: is there anything you dontdo well????

Chele: DS soemtimes gets up at 11:00 pm but usuaklly sleeps until 4:30 am when i get up-of course when i go in there he is always awake and has been squirming around but hes good at not crying unless he knows im in the room with him. But getting him to sleep takes alot of work.....i wish he could fall asleep on his own but it makes him hysterical. Yes, no more with others pills-i overslept this morning. But typically i used to sleep about 4 hours a night; I come form a line of insomniacs. My friends say i am a vampire: i just hang upside down a few hours and then i get up and go...but i am sooooo tired...my body is aching and i am coughing and stuffed up and dont feel like im getting any better. I may need assho----ho---ho---- to help me this weekend even though i put my foot down and said no more every weekend visitation (its easier to callo him this rightnow). I feel my fever coming back and am really afraid i may reinfect NB so i may end up having to finally go to the docs on Sat and have assss help me.

Ok who asked me this, Renee i think it was you and supermum, you naught girls. My ex (not the dad!!!) but from years ago is a gorgeous creature (look him up on the internet: used to be named Luciano but is now Michael Stephano or spelled stefano???). ANd he is hairless and huge!!!! But italian from sicily and it truly perfection. I should have had my child with him.

It was one of you guys, Asssss does know that hes not attractive as the girls teased him while groowing up and he jokes to strangers that NB will need plastic surgery b/c he looks like him so i think youre right, he knows i would have dumped his ass eventually. Ok renee, youre almost right: 5'4 used to be 105 (now 130 reching 135 because im eating all kinds of crap right now and dont care b/c i figure ill be alone for the rest of my life) and am a 36dd.....my boobs before birth were only 34dd so i dont know what happened!!!! And ok, ill let the truth come out, i did do some print work and that is what im afraid the dad will use with me in court. I already had to deal with the state bar re the pictures and got into alot of trouble (mind you these were done while i helped put myself through law school). And the BB does know about my lovely past...and Asssssss was quite proud to have me with him on his arm in court. So know im just a fat, bald, ex-whatever you want to call it. And Asssss is not rich by any means. I always turned down the offers to be "kept" by the really really wealthy men so i dont know what the hell i was thinking this time. And renee, my parents and i do have issues.....i never had one date until college and i remember my dad yelling at me and asking me what was wrong with me. Ive always been insecure. But enough of that; ive chosen to do the things ive done with noone elses encouragement and im an adult. I must deal with the consequewnces and i constantly relive down my past. People in court recognize me and even though theyve known me for two years, i will never live mhy past down. Yes, i am the life of the party. But i am a damn good attorney and i still have earned everyones respect b/c i never ran away from my past but was always honest about it whenj asked. People just like to talk with and about me b/c lawyers are so damn uninteresting. but i do get great results in court (heee heee)!!!!!!

[Renee22]

Hey, I thought we're calling NB's dad "BOH" :love1(Beast on Heat) - I just LOVE this smiley!

Peanut, you sure have big boobs, no wonder BOH was on heat the moment he laid his eyes on you!:love1 If you were blond, they would hv mistaken you for Pamela Anderson!:D

[chele]

Peanut, you can be mistaken for Pamela Anderson, she used to be a brunette too.

Hey supermum, you kind of freaked me out for a minute. Then after thinking about it I figured a guy could never keep interest this long and complain so convincingly about how dh doesn't know how to help. Men are not that intuitive. Congrats on the nights sleep. We didn't do to bad last night but dd has some type of flu, so we got to stay home again. Before long I will be an at home mom cuz I got fired for not going to work. You know for being sick I sure have a happy baby. She is still smiling, between throwing up and stuff.

Well better go and act like an at home mom today and get some extra cleaning done while I can. Fun, fun, fun.

[L&M's Mom]

Better get that cleaning done so dh doesn't fuss when he gets home. Oh, I forgot, you're the one with the good husband, right.

Mine came home the other night and got PO'd because I didn't have supper ready. Mind you, I had gotten two kids up and to daycare and the sitters, worked all day (I'm a partner with a law firm with numerous cases and people working under me), gone to the grocery store, refilled a prescription, picked the kids up and had started part of supper!!!! He was cooking the meat because I don't know how to fix what he wanted. I was told I should make the effort to learn how to cook. Being the smarta_ _ that I am, I asked my husband exactly when he wanted me to squeeze in the cooking lessons!

Can you tell, the steam is still floating from my ears!!

(I'd put in some of those smilies if I knew how, but I simply don't have a clue. I tried for 30 minutes last night with no luck. Makes you wonder how good a lawyer I am, huh!!!)

So, do fake blondes have more fun, too?

[supermum?]

Well i knew it was too good to be true. ds woke at 4am this morning so not quite a whole night's sleep. although, if peanut gets up at 4.30am to get ready for work (why again do you do something so insane??? you really need a government job like me) then i guess for some people it is a full night. by the time baby was back asleep ds age 4 woke to go to the toilet and had to be put back to bed. how many more years do i have of this?

Peanut - I was a 38E. not nice.

L&M's Mom - i can completely relate..they just have no idea at all. even if you work full time too, and i imagine you would have work to do at home too with your job, they expect us to do the majority of the work at home. but they always seem to need time for themselves - time that we never get. i really think most men dont handle juggling young kids/work/family very well. Hope you at least get spoilt for mothers day.

for the record, i have been fake blonde and red and they both seem to have more fun.

[Renee22]

L&M's Mom, you're a partner in a law firm and DH still expects you to cook? This is atrocious!:mad: Over where I live, we normally have live-in full time domestic helpers (we call them maids), usually Filipino or Indonesia. Those of your status would usually have 2 maids. Supper would be ready and house cleaned, laundry done, kids fed & bathed when you get home - you don't have to lift a finger! I costs about USD400 per maid per month here (wages & govt levies only).

The men of this generation expects us to have a job to pay the bills and do the job of a full-time homemaker and on top of it all, be a tigress in bed!:love1 Men are like public toilets - they are either engaged or full of sh*t!:D

Supermum, they'll mistake you for Anna Nicole Smith if you're blond!:D Hey, on a serious note, please remember to tell your mom you love her!

I want to share with all of you here a personal experience. There's a particular female cousin whom I used to bully - she is small and timid and was also bullied by her younger sister and my sister as well (same age as her). She is actually a very lovely person - no temper and never quarelled with anyone. In Dec 2001, my intuition told me to apologize to her for all that bullying and it was sooo strong that I went. I apologized and asked her to forgive me for all the pain and hurt Ive caused her and for being so mean to her. She was shocked! 10 days later, she passed away suddenly of a heart failure (she had been ill in bed for 3 days). I was shocked but relieved that I had asked for her forgiveness before she died. It was painful for me to deal with her sudden death, if she did not die suddenly, I would have more time to make it up to her.

So, please, make up with your loved ones while you still have the chance!:puh

[peanut]

Its 1:00 a.m and i just got back from the emergency room with NB and had to leave him at the hospital. I knew something was wrong last night when he was screaming all night long. I had to hold him almost all night and finally put him down to cry it out for a few hours b/c i had to get 4 hours of sleep (im still so sick)....well the nanny said he had been crying all day yesterday (which wold have been nice to know) and i left work early (i am so far behind-chele im like you ill be out of a job) and took him to the pediatrician who immediately told me i had to go to the emrgency room with him at once. The doctors arent sure exactly what he has but its tending to lean towards pneumonia.. The dad (BOH) came to the er and wife (but wife stayed in car even though i said it would be fine if she came in-she hates me as well) so we were there for 7 hours (cant believe she stayed incar whole time and i had to keep telling a hole to check on her-he would have just left her in there by herself.....). NB was crying hsyeterically th ewhole time and i feel absolutely horrendous i couldnt spoend the night. Have any of you dealt with this? I just got a call from the doc this second-they had to put the iv in his head!!!! They had no other veins. I am just so sick over this. IUm going to rush over there after work but i cant get there any earlier and ass has his hearings during the day. Plus, i still have to work a few hours on sat-emergency rushes. What am i going to do? If i was a good mother, i wouldnt have left his side and would be sleeping there with him. My heart is going to break when i see him there tomorrow, esp because i cant take him home and iill see that iv in his scalp. The doctor knows how upset i am and she keeps calling me to let me know his status.

Im sorry im not in any mood to be funny tongight-just say a prayer for my dear son if all of you wouldnt mind. Thanks.

[Renee22]

Oh Peanut, I am so sorry to hear about NB. Don't blame yourself for not being a good mother - it's BOH's fault. If he could take care of both you & NB or life, you would have been able to be with NB. I'll pray that NB will be fine.

[mom2]

Dear Peanut,
I am so sorry to hear about Grayson. You both will be in my thoughts and please make sure to update us as much as you can. This is the last thing either of you needed! Remember to take care of yourself too because he will need you to be strong for him as he is recovering.I can only imagine how difficult it is going to be to see him in the hospital. Do you have any close friends to lean on right now? Do what you can at work but don't feel bad about what you can't get done. You are only one person trying to do the job of about three!Hopefully, your employer and clients will be sympathetic.
Take care and I hope things improve drastically in a short amount of time. Try to enjoy your Mother's Day although I am sure it will be rough. You ahve been a great mother through all of this, remember that!!
We all have so much to really be thankful for and sometimes it takes something terrible to shake us into a reality check about what is really important. I consider myself shaken and plan to talk to my husband and get things straightened out, even if it means counseling. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

[chele]

Hang in there Peanut. He's a fighter and he knows you love him very much.

[supermum?]

Peanut sweetheart i am so sorry that you have to go through this. i know that it doesnt feel like it but these terrible times are really what make us the people we are meant to be - how we respond. Seeing Grayson like this will make you closer and love him even more (if that is possible) and make you realise what is important in lide - not a job or money but your son. i know that you are feeling guilty about leaving him and that it understandable and ideally you should have felt comfortable telling work that you cant come in. but that isnt reality and you feeling like you are going to lose your job wouldnt help Grayson either - the stress would be too much. I am sure he will be fine they just take so many precautions with babies and that is a good thing. I think i have said it before but being a mum and working is not as easy as i thought and there seems to be so many stressful parenting moments in the first few years. you just cant be a great dedicated mother and give 100% to your job. something has to give and maybe finding a job down the track that understands how important motherhood is will be the answer for you. but in the meantime, just keep being the best mum you can be because you are doing a great job. dont ever doubt that. thinking of you.

[peanut]

Thank you all for being there for me and grayson-he has pneumonia but the hospital is optimistic he may be able to go home sunday and spend mums day with me. I will have to continue giving him breathing treatments at home when hes released. I must go as i need to get up soon (im going in to work at 4:00am mummies day so i can spend the entire day later on with my little NB), Happy mothers day all. Ill check in later. xoxo

[L&M's Mom]

Peanut -

I am soooo glad NB is better. You know, I'm sure that they told you but with our little refluxers, we have to be careful because they will reflux and can aspirate some of the fluid into their lungs. It then develops into bronchiolitis and then pnuemonia. It is hard to tell when they have bronchiolitis because they are stuffy and weeze with just the reflux. My baby has had bronchiolitis once and had to be on the breathing treatments. They get used to them pretty quick.

The way I watch out for something other than just reflux (because she has a rattle in her throat quiet often) is when I put my hand on her back, if it vibrates with the rattle or you can feel the rattle on your hand, then it has likely gotten down into their lungs. She never had a fever with hers but I took her in because she sounded different and her cough was different. If I had waited another day or so, they said it would have developed into pnuemonia.

It is soooo tough to keep up with everything with our reflux NB's. You are doing an excellent job. I hope you have had a great mother's day with him. I also hope your work has been understanding of your situation. Too many times now the people you work for forget that there is nothing more important than family.

[chele]

Thought for the day:That the Lord didn't do it all in one day. What makes me think I can? Something all moms need to remember

Happy Mothers Day MOMS

[supermum?]

I hope everyone had a fabulous mothers day. mine was crap but compared to having a child in hospital, i will deal with it as i am pretty lucky to be home with my two beautiful boys. Chele - the sleeping through the night hasnt lasted. he seems to wake about 2.30 every night. he has cut his first tooth though.....
Peanut - hope everything is OK with grayson now. hope you parents are helping you out and the BUG. love to hear from you when you have time so i know you are OK. it was a killer waiting for your news. i kept saying to my dh i wish i could just pick up the phone and call you. keep well everyone.

[Renee22]

Hi All, Hope you all had a fabulous mothers day. Mine was awful as DH was in one of his regular foul moods. I don't expect anything for Mothers Day because to me, being a mother is already a gift.:cool:

Hi Peanut, I hope NB is much better. I think his pneumonia is due to his stripping. He has to keep his clothes on to prevent his chest from getting cold. Do keep us updated. I prayed for NB and hope you spent a wonderful Mothers Day with him.:D

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You are dispensable at work, but indispensible as NB's mom.
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[peanut]

I am so sorry for making our latest e-mails so glum. Ill try to perk it up!!!! Renee and Supermum: im so sorry to hear your mothers day wasnt good! Supermumk: what happened? Renee: Men are such pigs-----oink, oink!!

Grayson came out yesterday and that was the best gift of all-even though he was so horribly cranky and understandably so. I held him all night and he still is cranky. This is reminding me of the colic days which i thought were over but now it seems back to the same old but im sure its just because of everything hes been through.

L & M: I never knew that-maybe thats what happened???? Have you ever used the breathing treatments again?????



Allright Guys: I expect to see some funny messages!!! I promise NB wont strip anymore (Renee) so he doesnt catch cold. Ahhhh Chewwwwww

Thanks for all your prayers and strength you sent my wayt. Noone from either side came to see him in the hospital but i didnt expect them to. AT least my expectations have lessened.

[Renee22]

Peanut, it's so nice to hear from you again and I am so glad that NB is out - this will make you realise how important NB is to you and how much you want to love him and have him feel your love. So, NB's stripping career is over, I guess!:D What was BOH's :love1 reaction to all this? I can't believe BB cannot leave him even for 1 minute and waited in the car for him for hours!:rolleyes: How was BB's reaction to this whole thing? You've got to catch up Mother's Day with NB!

I always think DH is having male menopause (he's 45) 'cos he is always in a foul mood and is really petty and picky.:mad: Anyone of you experence this with your DH? He is always scolding me. I've never seen such a petty man like him!

[supermum?]

Peanut it is sooo good to know that Grayson is on the mend. and that you are hanging in there. Mothers day...well as we have no money at the moment i didnt expect a present but i did expect a card. dh isnt even working (maybe this is actually why he was so slack) so had no excuse but claims 'he didnt know it was so important to me'. usually for birthdays etc i actually get a card where he tells me what a good mum i am so i really missed it this time. and he made an effort with the boys which was great and did ask what i wanted to do but i just wanted him to plan something and spoil me for a change. is that too much to ask? anyway, his parents have never celebrated mothers day ever and he said that he didnt realise that it was so important - until i started crying!!! funny thing is we got an email from his dad saying that despite protesting all these years that she didnt believe in it his mum does now and was upset that not everyone called her - he was one of them. things better improve next year. why are they just sooo slack when it comes to this stuff? i always make an effort for him.

jacob is still having tummy pains i cant believe it. i think its a mild lactose intolerance but will just ride it out. i cant be bothered changing formulas at this late stage. we have worked out that yoghurt is out though...diahrea for days afterwards. but i dont think its just the milk its the cultures or whatever they put in it (this is my guess anyway). hope everyone is well. Peanut how did work respond to Grayson being in hospital? are the secretaries being nice yet?

[mom2]

Hi all,
Peanut, I am sooo glad that Grayson is home with you. I hope he gets better real fast!
Husbands just don't get it!!!! Of course we want to be pampered and appreciated. Our jobs are 24/7. I don't even want to get started on what's been happening around here. Suffice it to say, I have been polite to my dh and that's it. I love my kids so much and sure wish I could get back the husband he used to be. We are definitely on different life paths right now. I tried to talk to him this weekend but of course everything is my fault and he doesn't understand why I am crabby and tired all of the time. Gee, duh, two babies in two years (one colicky and refluxy) , a move across the country and trying to adjust to staying at home and a husband who has seemed to have checked out.
Well, I will stop now because we are supposed to be lightening things up. Thanks for listening!

[supermum?]

Mom2

I know exactly how you feel. I would love to know the statistics on parents that break up when they have young kids because i would think it would be a lot - day care is full of recently single mums. The only positive is when you come out the other side and have made it them you really feel like you have achieved a lot and your marriage is solid. it like i need to have a huge breakdown and cry and yell before my dh realises he is being slack and unhelpful. its not fair that we have to do everything but honestly, its pretty common. 2 little ones must be so hard i dont know how you do it. if he wont help, maybe you can try and fiind other ways to give yourself a break. Bubble bath and glass of wine when the kids are in bed? think of something and make sure you do it. you will feel better. men - cant live with them cant live without them. (although, sometimes i think i could quite happiy.....)

[mom2]

Thanks so much for the kind words.It isn't even really like I want the help with the kids. It is more that I am lonely and he is emotionally distant and not supportive. I am going to look into joining a gym this weekend. Money is tight but I think it would help me regain my self-confidence and my shape!Exercise has always been a huge release for me so I think that is the way to go. Gotta go for now I am pooped out. Sophie is teething and my son is starting the terrible two stage. Poor little guy gets so upset sometimes and I don't even think he knows why--breaks a mother's heart! Take care and thanks for listening!

[Renee22]

Mom2,, I am emotionally distant from DH too. His character is exactly the same like his dad - always scolding their wives, putting them down and are major control freaks (she can't even talk on the phone for 2 minutes). I really dont know how DH's mom can put up with him for almost half a century! Now that old man is in hospital recovering from surgery, she actually missed him so much - I wonder if she actually likes being scolded and put down all the time.:(

Supermum, no woman can tolerate being with a major control freak, so I can completely understand your mom & I really sympathize with her. She must have put up with him a lot.

Peanut, u should be spending more quality time with NB. Hope he is has stopped giving strip shows.:D

Wahtever happened to Chele, - she must be too busy having fun to bother about us!:puh

[peanut]

Its so nice to hear from everyone but i do feel so bad for supermum, renee and mom2 re: the husband situation. Mom2: i know you mentioned counseling, is that something you still want to do? Men are so opposed to it usually, like my dad says, people dont change except for the most extraordinary individual who really has to put his mind to it and you know men are such lazy asseeeeehaaaaass (cant swear online here). I think the gym sounds great. Who watches the kids when you go? I know i need to its been over two years and i used to go every day in law school and was in great shape. I just dont care anymore what i look like; ive given up on men except for NB (yes renee, the strip show is OVER!!!!! Hes protesting the clothes).

By the way, Renee, did you tell us what your husband does?? Most men are so tired after working that they dont want to be bothered at all by their wives (hence, the reason why divorce is up after kids) . Does your husband have too much time on his hands???

Supermum: I know what you mean about the cards, etc. Noone wished me a happy mums day (family, ASSHOOOO and of course not the BB). My dad is like your husband. My parents have been together for 40 years but my dad rarely ever bought cards (val. day, b-day, mothers day),. I know my mom does resent it. Men are such lazy oinkers sometimes.

Well, work isnt too happy with me. I cant get paid on some work i did for the firm before they hired me on which pisses me off because i was told i have to make up the time i missed. Well, hello!!!!!!I went in at 6:30 am on Sunday, usually work through lunch and get there at 7;7:30 a.m. The secretary came in and said my desk was really piling up and i guess had looked into my stuff (shes actually the office manager as well) and i cant find my friggin notes on how to use the computer system. I am so used to coming and going as i please (since i always put in more time than im paid for) and having a secretary. If i didnt have to learn the computer programs, i could do my work. I was told the other person before me didnt have such a stack and thats because he was such a screw up. I found more things wrong todayand pointed that out. I think the more you give, the less its appreciated and thatgoes for whether its at work or at home. Most people are so selfish they just take, take take. Ok-ill get off my soapbox.

Renee: i am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO over the pathetic asshooooo and BB: BB wanted to make sure i knew it was her who discovered the swelling in NB head. Whatever..........i am dropping him off at his dad office omn friday and am taking the weekend off. Let his secretary's help him. I also told him you better find a pediatrician out there because i cant take off anymore time. Hes going to either have to take care of him or have his secretary. He said ok. All i have is my career which is the future for my son. It has been so hard for me to live down the past but i finally have and i cant let it go. I m going to have to learn to let go ofNB and trust his dad will take care of him. It scares me (but i found out the reason why our recept. was fired was because she had a sickley child and took off alot of time).

Mom2: i really do hope Jacob is feelingbetter. ALl of you guys are so dear to meL isnt that funny: we are just internet friends but i have told oyu guys more than i tell my so called friends. Maybe its because i feel safe with all of you,

In any event, everyone take care. Im thinking of you all during our trials and tribulations/

[supermum?]

hello lovely ladies

Peanut - i know i am stating the obvious but you need A NEW JOB. i know that you need to make the best of things at the moment but can you start looking out for something better? no-one should have to work for people with that kind of attitude. i know that you refer to your 'past' and how its been difficult getting work and i am assuming you are referring to the BUG but maybe if people can see that you two are talking and getting on OK it wont be a problem? surely the BUG wants you to have a good job for grayson's sake?

Renee - i think i might have given the wrong impression of my dad as he is nothing like that. he is warm and caring and was quite supportive and loving towards my mum. she is a total airhead and was less loving towards us kids than him. most people were surprised when they separated as they were such a great couple. and i think being a control freak is different than being controlling. i admit to being a control freak but am not a controlling, cold or manipulative person. my dad was like that. so was your dh like his now when you married or is this a recent thing??

Chele - hello, are you out there????

[chele]

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't been around lately. Can't say it has all been fun. DD was sick last week, thougth she was better and got a call from daycare to come pick her up, she was throwing up again. Went to Dr. she had stomach flu and ear infection. She still has diareha ( which is now 7 days) Nurse said give her bananas.(very scientific). The poor thing looks like she is losing weight. Then in the middle of it all, I got her flu over the weekend, and DH ended up with it Sunday night, and I guess is still fighting it off. You know I haven't had a flu in probably 20 years and I have had it 3 times this year so far. My system seems to be really out of wack. So now I guess I am just tired. And this work thing is still getting in my way of having fun:D

Sorry to hear most everyone's mommies day sucked. Mine was actually pretty good, for being under the weather. I will leave it at that, don't want you guys mad at me. But I will say DH actually tried and thought things through.:)

Peanut, I am so glad Grayson is doing better. I was worried about him. My DH says to watch him closely now when he gets colds that he is now predisposed to pneumonia. He was a pneumonia kid. Stick to your guns with Dh taking NB to dr. there is no reason he can't - he is more established in his career and won't have the backlash that you will get. When he complains, tell him it is part of being a parent., grow up and accept your responsibilities. It sounds like you are doing pretty good considering the troubles that you have been dealing with. Hang in there. Oh and thanks, somewhere you told me to get that white sound CD. I did and it seems to be helping somewhat. (knock on wood - now it probably won't again.) I looked up some information on pneumonia and colds and I didn't see anything about stripping on it. Just keep NB out of drafts when he is stripping.:D - You know when you are writing a post? The box below the "Your Reply" box - says "Options" there is a check box about smilies - is yours checked? If it is that is why your smilies don't work, uncheck it and they should work.:cool:

Hey Renee - can I ask how you ended up with this guy? He doesn't seem like someone you would waste your time on. As for his mom, I would say it isn't that she likes being controlled and talked down to, she just doesn't know anybetter anymore. After a while it is easier to stay with and put up with than to be alone. That is what most people are most afraid of is being alone in life. My biggest fear is not being alone, it is becoming obese, because I eat to stay awake, which is not working other than making me feel miserable. Oh well, someday I will learn.

Hi Supermum, wow a first tooth, well you can't be mad about the not sleeping through the night with a tooth:) Did you take out stock in orjel?:puh Sammi has slept through twice in the last week, but the other 5 days it is up at 2:30 also. It was/is a nice dream isn't it that we will get to sleep through the night. I have a sweat shirt that my brother gave me for xmas one year that I have found to be very appropriate it says "Men . . . Can't live with them, Can't teach them to fetch":puh

Mom2, can I ask you a question? If you were to give advise on having another baby would you say wait, or go ahead to having 2 under 2? We were thinking of getting pregnant this fall, but I am a little nervous to have 2 that young. Just curious.

I don't remember who wrote about being a bear but I am with you baby.
Hi L&M!
Well, I better get back to work. Lunch is over. Have a happy day all.

[peanut]

:angel3 Ok Chele: did this appear on the screen as a smiley? I cant believe all that youre dealing with right now. How can you keep it together? I am so sorry you are also under the weather. What next, right? So NB and I did get you guys sick!!!!! So do you dream about candy bars at night? I am so stressed I hit the vending machines and am chomping away on candy, regular coke and peanut butter sandwiches!!! Oink Oink. Hope you guys feel better soon!!!

Supermum: yes, I do need to look for something eles. Today was another one of those days-i got snapped at because i dont know how to print out a receipt:excuse me, when did a lawyer have to know this> Then our clients are miserable human beings: after i spent so much time on one case and was so nice, he then callls back and wants to speak to a senior attorney because he doesnt think i am on the ball-mind you that attorney gave the exact same advice as i did. So i took 20 cases home with me tonight and will proably be up all night, Yes, my past referring to the asshooooo and also my printwork that i did. I got in trouble with the state bar even though its a first amendment issue[i just didnt have the time or stamina or money to defend myself so i accepted the punishment,


Allright ladies: gotta go!!

[supermum?]

Chele - great to have you back, missed you. hope you are feeling better. i am at home today with the flu. had 2 migranes at work yesterday and had to go home to bed. i have ulcers in my mouth. i never get sick unless i have babies. the first year i seem to be endlessly sick. i was the same when i had zac. about to go to the doctors, not that there is much he can do. i just need a holiday (from my family preferably). second tooth cut last night!! yeah, what a big boy. its really exciting because he loves sandwiches (vegemite but you guys dont have that do you?) and has finally stopped choking when he eats them. its amazing how quickly they grow.
Peanut - see i get to stay home with lots of sickleave and no stress about losing my job - that's what you need. you are way too good a person and lawyer to be stuck working for those scumbags.

Mom2 - chocolate is my weakness. i have been on a diet for 2 weeks and lost a few pounds but because i feel like crap today i indulged in chocolate. its all too hard.

[mom2]

Hey there all,
Sophie is crying a bit (suposed to be napping) so I'm not sure how much time I will have. Sounds like we are all having a tough go of it right now. too bad we can't all escape to a spa somewhere for about 5 days and just hang out!!
Chele, To answer your question--Sophie was not exactly planned!!!Patrick was 6 months old when she was conceived and 16 months old (just barely) when she was born. If I had it to do over and PLAN it I personally would not have had them so close together. I was concerned about my age and how long it would take to become pregnant (although with my son it was 2 months so I should have known!!!). Anyway, I think it would be better to wait until the first one is potty trained and a little more self-sufficient. Also, I feel a little guilty that my son didn't get as much baby time and one on one as he should have. He is very easygoing and I think at times we expect too much from him. He isn't even 2 yet!!! It is really hard having two babies. My day is basically feeding, changing diapers and cleaning up toys. I don't mind all that but I do feel as though my kids are getting shortchanged as far as my time goes. I am a stay at home mom and I feel like I should be spending more time playing with them but I am too tired at night to clean, do laundry, etc.. so I try to get some of that stuff done during the day. It would be great if they would coordinate their naps!!!!! I don't want to sound too negative but I do want to be honest.I hope you are feeling better soon. It is so hard to take care of others when we aren't feeling well.


Supermum, I know how you feel about the chocolate!!! We are so broke I can't even afford a candy bar but today is payday and I am going grocery shopping. I have a feeling there will be ice cream in the cart!! Don't be so hard on yourself!! We all deserve a little indulgence once in awhile. Now you know why I can't lose any weight! Sorry to hear about your migraines--they are just awful!!! I suffer from them too. That was one of the perks of being pregnant--I never got a migraine. Do you take any medication for them? I never have but I think now I will have to look into that because with the kids I can't exactly go to bed during the day and ask them to look after themselves!!!

Peanut, God, I could never do your job. Maybe I should hook you up with dh who now thinks he would like to go to law school. Great timing!! God, he is trying my patience right now. I think I married the eternal dreamer-- head in the clouds and clueless!!!!!It's like he is two different people. One knows he needs a stable job with benefits and the other wants to go back to school full-time. I am going crazy. I tried to start a conversation this weekend but it got me more upset. I would love to go to counseling but I don't know who could watch the kids while we went. We all have our problems to deal with I guess. I am just glad that he doesn't have the power to make me feel bad about myself anymore. I used to blame myself for everything but now I know he's got issues that have nothing to do with me.

Sounds as though Sophie needs to be re-swaddled. Talk to you all soon!

[Renee22]

Hi All, I am back. It was a public holiday yesterday and I was pampering my DS :love3 the whole day. I just cant get enough of him!:smile

As for my DH, he really caused me a lot of misery and the only reason why I am still in it is because of religion. Many times I wished that I had divorced him. He's out of job now (that's why he's taking care of DS when his mom is unable to) but is doing some freelance work & earns only enough for himself. So you can say that we are poor.:o

Chele, I hope DS is recovering well. All of you are such brave mothers to have to go thru all their sicknesses. I really would not know how to handle it if DS falls sick.

Supermum, I am glad that your dad is a warm & caring person and not the sort of control freak that I thought he is.;)

Hey Peanut, you should start learning to be independent at work so you won't get pushed around or looked down upon. It's SURVIVAL! Being a secretary in a law firm, I can say that a lot of our lawyers here are independent. Times have changed and we need to keep up. So I guess you'll have to humble yourself for the time being and learn whatever you need to 'cos it's for your own benefit. ;) After that, it will be easier to survive just anywhere.

Hi Mom2, hang in there. it sure is tough having 2 babies so close.:cool:

[peanut]

Hi Gang-

Chele-hope all of you are ok and feeling better soon.

Mom2: I think all of us are broke!!! Your husband sounds like my dad-always dreaming and never really being satisifed and then regretting a life gone by. My parents moved us all over the place always thinking the next place would be better. What the hell is your husband thinking about law school for???!!! I owe over $130,000.00 if you can believe it. I will be paying for the rest of my life. I know we all do have it quite rough dont we??? But we love our babies soooooooo much.

Renee: Well I did it today: i stood up for myself because i am an excellent attorney (sorry for bragging but this is one area where im really gaining confidence.Saved another guys home today and the secretary was telling me to hole punch documents into files. I politely told her i was working on the file and do punch goddam holes. She became so defensive she raised her voice. I ignored her. Then she told me to take a call and i told her she could do it i was working on an emergency. I am the only one in the office who answers 30 calls a day, meets clients every hour, does court hearinmgs and then tries to manage over 150 cases all with alot of litigation to it. I told the office manager that i was hired for my lawering skills and not on how to print recipts. I told her if i had to ask 100 times i would do so. So there!!!!!!!!

Anyhoot-ill be wowking all weekend long when the assh0000 takes NB-his secretary got scabies-how disgusting. NB will not be anywhere near his office. Its also something with him. I am so disgusted and the funny thing is now i dont give one ioate about him, he calls all the time. UgggggHHHHH!!!!

Speak to you guys soon.


P.S> Hi Supermum!!!!!

[supermum?]

Will it never end. i am at home (on sick leave) trying to get over my flu and feeling crappy when i get a phone call from daycare that Jacob has been dropped out of the swing (about 1.5metres off the ground) and fallen on his head. it serious and i need to get there and take him straight to the doctor. then they call back and say that they have called an ambulance. dh is home and drives me as i am crying and cant see (cant believe i havent had another migrane at the stress of it all). get there and he is not too bad, quite alert just tired and ready for a sleep. i was picturing the worse. this one is going to kill me. he is always hitting his head but its hardly fair when someone drops him. apparently the swing moved and he fell out before they could strap him in. no wonder i am always sick, there's always something going on. anyway, we went to the doctor but couldnt be bothered waiting. he seems OK, the ambulance guys thought he was OK so i will watch him over the next 24 hours.

its almost the weekend here, they should be restlful but i find them so busy with the boys, but it could be much worse and they are both so damm cute so i wont complain any more. hope everyone is well. Peanut - good for you. sometimes, once you cause a scene and stand up for yourself they back down. make sure you take some time for yourself this weekend so when NB gets back you are rested for him.

HI renee, chele and mom2. xxx

[peanut]

Supermum: youre sick too!!!!!!!! My gosh- poor little Jacob-im sure hes ok. Just watch over him. God, does it ever end??? Ive been told no and that enjoy this time now because its the EASY part!!!! Are they kidding???? Your dh better be taking great care of you or ill have to fly over and beat him up for you. Please rest this weekend and also take care of yourself. oh-youll appreciate this: the day i brought NB home from the hospital, as i was laying down with him (he wouldnt let me put him down alone) i tripped on the bed and fell with him in my arms and his head hit the vcr!!! I watched over him for the next 24 hours to make sure he was ok. Our little oones are literally headbanger but at least it wasnt your fault (like mine-i felt so bad). Have a s good of a weekend as possible and ill check in soon with you,xoxo

[Renee22]

Supermum, so sorry to hear about Jacob. Is there a reason why he is always hitting his head? I would have been unconsolable if that happened to my DS. :cry4

Peanut, I dropped DS on the bed when he was still in my arms - I somehow lost balance. Once, I almost dropped him while scooping him out of the bath - I would have cried myself to death if that had happened!

Over here, we have a juvenile (& adult) personal accident insurance which pays actual medical reimbursement (incl ambulance, X-rays, surgery, specialists fees, hospital expenses etc) for any accident. DS has got one and I got the one with medical reimbursement of about $1,500 per accident (there are different levels that you can buy). I know infants/kids are very prone to falls and accidents, so that's why I find it necessary. I got the policy from AIA. It reimburses even for minor accidents (as long as it is an accident) such as insect bites.

I wont be checking in on this site during the weekend as I dont not want DH to know that I have been on any internet "chat". I hope to hear all's well and good news when I check in on Monday morning (Sunday night U.S. time). ;)

My love and prayers to all of you.:love3

[chele]

Hey, supermum, I didn’t realize the flu was so contagious over the internet. I am sorry; I didn’t mean to get you sick. Please feel better. Poor ‘lil Jacob, good thing he has a hard head like his dad. But on the good side, I think you can rule out circus performer for him as a career choice, they don’t like to take people who fall and hurt themselves a lot. Well, unless he becomes a clown, then it is considered funny.

Peanut, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not only did you stand up for yourself (YEAH), you got the smilies to work!!! I am so proud of you. Happy to hear that it sounds as if NB is bouncing back quite well. You know men, they always want what is not available to them. Let him keep calling, use it to your advantage.

Mom2 – thanks for your input, everything you said is kind of the fears I have thought up. Now I know they are valid. I am starting to worry about the age thing too, hence wanting to get pregnant this year over next. I don’t want to have to take all those extra tests that they tell you to get when you are 35+.

And ladies, how can we lose weight when not getting the appropriate amount of sleep slows down your metabolism? So technically not only being pregnant makes you fat but having/keeping/raising kids makes you pre-disposed to becoming and staying fat.

Well thank you for all the well wishes, apparently it worked cuz I am back to my rambling self. Everyone have a great weekend, if I don't make it back.

[L&M's Mom]

Wow - seems like almost everyone is having a bad time of it right now. My dh and I have had a stomach bug this week but so far, the kids have stayed well. (knock on wood). Then, like the stupid idiot I am, I went to see James Taylor last night and drank too much beer. :cry5 That's me throwing up last night. It is now 5 p.m. and I have just recovered. You'd think at 35 I'd know better. At least my husband is in one of his nice moods and took care of me.

For each of you with husband problems, I am soo sorry. My husband and I go through some intense love-hate periods. From growing up in a family where my parents hated each other, I can personally speak to the damage that that type of relationship has on kids. I'd encourage you all to go to counseling if at all possible.

Peanut - your secretary works for you, not the other way around. I'm very lucky in that all of my staff are wonderful. We are very much a team. I do not "boss" people around - instead, we all work together. That creates a really good work environment for everyone because they all know that they are incredibly important. However, if your secretary is not a team player, then she needs to be reminded that you are the one who brings in the money to pay her salary and she answers to you, not vice versa. My secretary would laugh so hard at me saying that - I answer to her all the time but she is absolutely the BEST and one of my favorite people in the world.

Chele - keep rolling because you keep all of us smiling during the tough times.

Hope you all have a great weekend.

[chele]

Wow, hoping this means all had a good weekend, that or we are all sick of each other, which one is it ladies? I have to say I had a decent weekend, actually went out for first dinner without dd. she stayed home with her papa and they both did fine. Well was just checking in to see what was up. have a happy day.

[peanut]

CHele-so youre having fun while the rest of us are suffering are you????? I am not sick of anyonr FYI i am just so lethargic and apathetic right now i just want to stare at a blank screen and be comotose. Not much exciting this weekend and emergencies once again at work. Oh---i was locked in the office on friday night (did i mention that before???) and had to have someone come from work and let me out. I had to go to the bathroom so bad and i started having a total panic attack. So after, i went shopping and spent my whole tax refund!!!!!! Now i have to go back and return half the stuff. And im still having a panic attack from spending money i dont have.

Otherwise, nb is still being a handful. It is so damn hard getting him to sleep-he resists it completely, and im too chicken to let him cry it out. I coughed and he acted like i had cut off his foot!!! Ive never seen such a tempermental baby!!!Now that i am not on the antidepressants its becoming harder for me to cope so i definately need to go back on them asap..... anyhoot, ladies check in with us!!!!!:angel1

[Renee22]

Hope all of you had a good weekend. Hope all your darling babies are much better now. Do keep us updated when you have some time.:)

Peanut, you mentioned that NB gets shocked easily. My DS is like that, even when DH clears his throat or even at every slight sound, DS jumps! he gets frightened very easily. Anyone else has this problem with their DS or DD?:cool:

[supermum?]

Hi lovely ladies

i didnt check post anything over the weekend because nobody was talking - didnt feel much like talking to myself. had a fairly quiet one but just for a change Jacob is sick. it is driving me insane. his poo is so bad that his bottom is red raw. poor darling. will it never end? because he is sick he is only having short 40 minute naps again. and i had a migrane this morning. I know what you mean about the jumpiness. J is the same. i think maybe it is the oversensitivity to things, including noise.

peanut - i thought you went back on the antidepressants?? you should probably go back to the doc if you havent. surely there is something that wont make your hair fall out.

Keep well everyone. xxx

[mom2]

Hi everyone,
Looks like we are slowly getting back together. Must have been kind of a blah weekend for all. Things here have been a little rough. Sophie had her checkup last week and she is not gaining weight. She still weighs under 13 lbs. and she is 7 months old. Granted, she is tiny and so am I (only 5 ft.) but I am starting to get worried. My son has always been in the 95th percentile or higher!!! Our ped. isn't too concerned yet because she looks healthy--chubby little legs and tummy-- and is doing everything she should developmentally. She does want her to have another weight check in 6 weeks and Sophie has a checkup with her specialist next week. I just feel that it is my fault somehow because I am in control of her food and what she eats. She started stage 2 foods and it was a disaster. Her face broke out in a rash and she had horrible stomach pains. She seems to be accepting the plain meats ok. I also tried adding a little formula to her cereal and she got horrible gas and didn't nap for two days so that is out. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions or similar stories?!
One good note though, dh and I had ANOTHER "talk" this weekend and it went much better than the last one. I really feel like we aired out a lot of stuff and are on a better track now.That will help. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting. The end of the school year is always so hectic and he is teaching a mini-class the last week of school at night to earn a little extra cash so he will be gone from 7 am to 7 pm!I am not sure how I am going to handle bedtime yet--they both usually go down at the same time.
Well, I feel like I am babbling so I will say goodbye for now. Supermum, did Jacob ever have any problems from the swing incident? Sorry to hear about your migraine. Those are terrible!!
Chele, Just for your info I didn't have any of the tests done for "older" moms. My ob was awesome and he didn't really push them on us. He was about the same age as me and dh. His wife had just had their second baby and didn't have the tests done either. I guess it is just what you are comfortable with.Just a funny thought--Dh and I figured out that by the time Sophie is out of diapers we will have been changing diapers for 4 years!!!!!!
Well, now I really will go. Have a great one everybody--you guys keep me going!

[chele]

hi gals, just have to vent for a minute before I get to work. Oh before that - Supermum remember how we tried so hard to figure out the time difference, well I was sittiing at my husbands desk this weekend looking at his desk clock and started hitting buttons (it doubles as a calculator) and it had the time for Sydney on it, and Paris and many others. I felt like such an idiot. (thought it would give you a smile) Anyway, for men having 2 heads you would think at least one of them would work, but boy they don't do they? My DH, who I love, becomes handicapped when it comes to doing 2 things at once if he is holding dd. This morning he sat and watched tv with dd for an hour and then decides he HAS to take a shower 20 minutes before I need to catch my train for work. I was so mad!!! I asked him was dd ready to go to daycare? Not hardly since she was still in a onesy, but apparently I have nothing more to do in the mornings than get dd ready. OH I am frustrated. Anyway sorry just needed to vent, I better get back to work. Oh, he didn't shower, and got her ready to go, I got to make a cup of coffee and finished getting her bag ready for daycare. So once that caffine kicks in I should be ok.

Supermum -did you ever get a change to read that book I told you about? We are working on sleeping through the night now, it is a little slow coming but it is coming. I am reading it again and taking notes this time. It really stresses a bedtime routine and to write it down and evaluate it to make sure it is calming. Anyway, just curious.

And my dd jumps everytime you cough, clear throat and make a sudden move. We do a lot of walking in the dark.

Chin up all.

[Renee22]

Hi Chele, so, my DS is not the only one (besides NB) who gets startled or frightened easily! Does DD sleep on her back or on her tummy? I always put DS on his back as I am always so paranoid about SIDs. I have heard that they will not be frightened so easily if they sleep on their tummies. ;) For time differences, you can go to the WORLD CLOCK website instead of using your calculator :-

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Hi Supermum, how is Jacob doing now? I guess you have read my post in the TIPS & HINTS section about Choosing Daycare. I came across this article in our local mag and I thought I should share it briefly with everyone - it sure is informative. Perhaps you will like to check out other daycare in your area based on the tips I've shared in this article. See if you can find a "safer" daycare for Jacob, preferably one with a trained nurse (of possible) to handle emergencies & accidents.

Hi Peanut, how's NB? Hope that bossy secretary of yours is behaving well.:D Hope BOH :love1 & BB are taking good care of NB while he is with them. :cool:

Hi Mom2, so you're 1 inch taller than me! :D Sophie is small but do not compare her with bigger babies, its fine so long as she is healthy and chubby! How many times does she drink her milk a day & how many ozs each time? How many times do you give her semi-solids? Sorry I do not know why she broke out in rash & gets tummy pains. Do you heat up the food properly before giving it to her? Some people (like myself) cannot stomach cold foods - I get tummy aches and gas pains. I will inform you if I come across any article on this. I am glad you & DH aired out your differences. :puh

Hi L&M's Mom DH & I go thru many love-hate periods too - hang on! :cool:

[supermum?]

hi there from sunny brisbane.

jacob seems to be suffering no problems from his fall except that he has hit his head a few more times since then (at least it was from a lower distance). i think maybe he will be a stuntman when he grows up....or a brain surgeon. Renee - the daycare centre is a good one, one of the best in the area. zac has been there for over 4 years. i have never heard of another accident like this. i guess these things sometimes happen and second baby i am handling it better than i would have with the first. you tend to not stress as much.

chele - i havent read that book yet, will have to try and track a copy down. jacob is always sick which seems to be the only thing that wakes him. i really think tha he has irritable bowel syndrome. he seems to have constant tummy bugs, even when they clear up he gets another in a day or so. plus the teeth cutting. at the moment the diarea is so bad i tried taking his nappy off last night to try and let the air get to his bottom and it was a disaster/ green runny poo everywhere. (sorry for the visual). thank god we have polished floors or i would have dies trying to get it out of carpet. i really think that he is picking it up from daycare because the whole family seems to get them - he just gets it 100 times worse.

although only 31 with the second baby i had the 14 week test (ultrasound) for down syndrome but that is all. i didnt get a chance to have it with zac as it wasnt around then so i jumped at the chance to see the baby so early. and its always nice to find out everything is OK.

we have Zac's school interview tomorrow - i cant believe my boy will be at school next year. wow. he is really such an angel, always telling me how beautiful i am, calling me his princess. i am glad he came first as i dont think jacob will be as touchy feely as Zac. he seems far too independant.

mom2 - have no idea what to suggest with the foods. hopefully she will grow out of it. i am taking jacob to a fabulous naturopath in a few weeks so i will see what i can find out for you.

[Renee22]

Mom2, I came across an article on FOOD ALLERGIES and I have posted it on the Help Please section. Do take a look at it.

There's also some information on foods to avoid at this link :

http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/baby/babyfeeding/9195.html

[mom2]

Hi everybody,
Just popped in the say hi. Hope everyone has a great day.

Renee, Thanks for all of the info. I am going to check out that link you sent.

We are taking Sophie to the ped. today. I finally called yesterday because now her eye is all goopy too. There is just too much going on with her to let it go. She has been running a fever off and on, the rash and now her eye so we shall see.

Well, of course she is up now and crying for breakfast. Check in with you all later!

[chele]

Hi all, better day today. Yeah!

Renee - When I put DD to bed I put her on her back, but she is old enough now to roll over so she ends up sleeping most of the night on her tummy. She has finally gotten to the stage that she no longer wants to be swaddled.

Mom2- I am so glad to hear you and your dh had a good talk. Keeping the lines of communication open is so hard. I hope things go smoothly for you on saturday. I know it is hard when you are in a place that you have no family and friends are a little harder to ask for help from. For the most part with Sophie if you are feeding her 'til she is full and she seems healthy and happy and the Dr is happy with her, yet showing that she wants to make sure there is no problems(something I haven't really seen in a lot of the Dr.s here), enjoy the good. She will grow up soon enough. But remember, if it feels wrong, just keep checking on it. Getting other opinions until your comfortable isn't wrong, if it was none of us would probably be here. We would have just accepted the "colic" diagnosis we were all given the first time we told the dr.s our babies cry non-stop. You are doing everything right!:) Hope all turns out well at the ped. Keep us posted.

Question: Isn't Sophie about 7 months, and Jacob is about 7 months too? I can't say I am looking forward to the 7th month.:)

Supermum - you might try a liquid antacid on his bottom, I was told that was supposed to help servere diaper rash. Poor lil guy, can't catch a break can he. I really hope he grows out of this stuff soon, for your sake. How did Zac's interview go? I am sure great, he sounds like such a great kid - proof you are a great mom. Hang in there.

[mom2]

Hey all,
Just back from the ped. and both are sleeping!! Sophie has a skin infection under her left eye so we came home with a solution I need to mix and give to her. Better than trying to do drops or cream--she doesn't sit still for long!! The ped. seemed to think the facial rash was an allergic reaction to the formula I tried to add to her cereal or the chicken noodle dinner she tried for the first time. She did gain some weight since our last visit two weeks ago. That made me feel pretty good. The ped. said not to fixate on her weight but her overall disposition and development. So I guess I will just chill out a bit. She is almost crawling now. She can get 3 body parts moving at the same time and make this funny little lunge move. She is going to give her brother (and me) a run for his money when she gets real mobile.

Chele, I wouldn't trade 7 months for any of her earlier months!!! We have had a few bumps in the road but overall she has been a joy lately. She smiles so much and laughs at her brother.

Oh, they are awakening! Bye!

[supermum?]

hey there

chele - jacob is 8 months, the big boy of the group. he is standing and holding on with 1 hand (which he has been doing for ages) but cant seem to coordinate his feet to walk yet. has just started gliding - i think thats what they call it - walking along a table holding on. very cute. if only he wasnt sick all the time. and he has just started getting upset when i leave him. this morning at daycare they were outside with the toddlers so maybe he was overwhelmed but i heard him cry as i walked away and went back out for a cuddle and to give him his dummy. its so hard when they get to the seperation anxiety phase.
mom2 - i have heard about mucas out the eye being a sign of alergy. sounds like it might be hard working out what she can and cant eat. and i think at that age they are too young to do any proper allergy testing. sometimes i envy people who have easy babies that never get sick!!!
Peanut - are you OK? havent heard from you for a while. hope you are sleeping and coping OK. xoxo

[chele]

Just stopped by to say hi.

:love3

Hope everyone is doing ok. Looks like we are slowing down a bit. Don't know if that is good or bad, not sure what is going on with everyone else. Hope for all that it means things are getting better - at least a little bit. Things have been pretty ok here.

Peanut & Renee hope things are going OK - haven't heard much from either of you.

Mom2 - hope Sophie is feeling better. ( I love her name).

Supermum - keep Jacob padded, that beautiful bouncing baby boy.

And all have a good weekend if I don't get a chance to stop back tomorrow. I will try to though.

[Renee22]

Hi All, DH is in a foul mood again after 4 days of being loving. I guess that's part of menopause!:D

Hi Chele & Supermum, hope all's well with your babies.:cool:

Hi Peanut, you must be busy teaching your secretary a lesson. :D Hope's all well with NB and that :love1 is taking good care of him. Hey, you may want to check out my post on Choosing Daycare in the Tips & Hints Section. If :love1 pays for daycare, you will be able to put him in a really good one.:D

Hi Mom2,have you seen the article I posted on "Article on Food Allergy" - be sure to check the labels of all the food you give to Sophie to ensure that none of the foods that usually cause allergies are present in the food you give her.;)

Hi L&M's mom, hope DH's stomach flu is over. xoxoxoxo:puh

[mom2]

Hey everyone,
Just a quick hello. Hope we all have good, long weekends(sorry Renee and Supermum, you probaby won't be celebrating Memorial Day)!! Sophie still has a terribly goopy eye but is in pretty good spirits. She is not taking her afternoon nap anymore though. Her brother went through this phase at the same age so hopefully she will pass through it and go back to an hour in the afternoon. I need that break to get ready for the evening grind!!

Peanut, Where are you and is everything alright?!!!

Renee, Thanks for posting the food allery link. I did check it out and I am going to be watching labels closely for wheat or wheat by-products. That is the only different thing she had besides the formula in her cereal. Won't be trying that again!!!!

Supermum, I know what you mean about wanting a "normal" baby. When this rash started up I thought "Geez, can't we just start stage 2 foods without it being a big deal". Nothing is just easy! Hope things are better for you and yours. Sounds like you all were passing around germs for awhile.


Take care!

[peanut]

Hi guys!!!! I was having server problems and couldnt connect onto the internet! I missed all of you. Mom2: is Sophie doing better???? Things are hectic at work and i had one client call me an idiot-i about lost it, I started yelling. I cant believe i lost control. My clients suck. They are all calling me and are about to lose their homes and they are trying to blame their lack of responsibility on us. I cant take it. I must yell at everyother client because they dont listen and want to argue. Ill probably lose my job over that-but right now, i dont care.

ANyways-Renee ill check into the post you put up on Sunday-i am with NB all weekend and i am so tired-i need a break but asshoooo has a wedding to go to this weekend. Whatever. Hes missing the best parts of NB. He turning into such a happy baby-laughing, rolling over like a roly polie (which totally amuses him) and hes like an inchworm. Still cant get rid of the horrible rash.

Renee: i hope your dh gives you a break this weekend and lightens up with his moods-men think they have it so much harder than we women......Mom2: are things going better with your dh now that you had "the talk". Chele and Supermum: missed oyu guys. Does Jacob still have a head left????

Have a great weekend everyone. Im so glad to be back!!!:D :D

[supermum?]

Welcome back peanut you had me sooo worried. i feel like your mother (or maybe just your friend) checking in hoping to hear from you. these kind of friendships kind of suck as you cant just pick up the phone whenever you want, meet for lunch, have a glass of wine with takeout...all the normal things we girly friends do. anyway, i am thrilled to hear that grayson is becoming such a happy, good boy. you should have some joy in the stressful life you lead. and as for work, i know what you mean about people blaming you and taking out on you their problems. we get the people who have lost homes and businesses and want to blame others for their stupdity. including us. not much fun.

the jacob saga continues..no he still has a head which is reasonably intact but i am not sure if i can say the same for his stomach. he has had such bad diahrea (sorry i really need to work out how to spell that) that i had to change him 4 times during the night last night. he's doing about 8 - 10 a day. i dont think that he has been putting on weight either - it goes straight through him. anyway, the doctor said that it might be the losec (reflux medication, your prevacid) and we have to go off it for 10 days. he has started puking up again and we have only missed 1 dose. the zantac gave him cramps and we had to stop it so i dont know what we will do if it is the losec. and if there isnt a big improvement he will send us to a pediatric GI. now i know you guys have been to them but here we dont seem to do that so i'm pretty impressed. i said that besides the loose BM's he has bad stomach cramps that wake him and he agreed that was unusual for 8 months. i still think its an immature or irritable bowel but apparently they never diagnose that in babies so young. typical. they will probably call it something else and when he is 10 they will change their mind. now that i think of it his cousin (my dh's side) has a 10 yr old on medication for some stomach problems. i should really find out what that is all about.

on the good side i have just been to the movieds to see X -men 2. i tool zac which was a bit of a pain because of course he needed to go to the toilet in the middle of the good bit. but i got to leave jacob at home so it wasnt too bad. better go as he is screaming. i expect a better effort from you gals next week. lets get back to that old cheery group we had!! or i may just have to find other cyber friends....maybe some good looking, rich, kind, attentive males...oh that's right ...there arent any. talk soonXXXX

[chele]

Yeah, Peanut is back. We missed you. Glad to hear that NB is coming into better moods. We knew it would come it is just the waiting, right. I can't beleive you haven't told all your clients to go to heck. What a bunch of pita s (pain in the @$$). I don't know how you do it. I have no patients for ignorant people. Guess that is why I am a computer geek, so I don't have to deal with too many.

Sammi is doing pretty good over all, but has anyone else had trouble with green beans? It is the only green vegetable in stage one and boy does it make her gassy. Like the stomach pain thing you are talking about Supermum. The poor little thing was up every 45 min to an hour last night. Thank goodness my dh was on duty last night. I was also wondering from those who have the older babies, Supermum, Mom2, how often do you give your babies solids. Do you give them 3 meals a day or 2 and if it is 3 what are you giving them? I am giving Sammi 2 meals of solids a day, cereal with fruit for breakfast, and then a veggie for lunch. I was wondering if I should be giving her dinner too? I can't say she seems overly hungry, but she eats solids anytime you give them to her.

Supermum, the x-men 2, was it good? I liked the first one. (I know geek) I got to go out with some friends last night after work. We met for drinks and dinner. I am such the wild woman. I bought 3 drinks and drank about 1 and 1/2. I had such a headache when I got home. Dinner was really good though we went to this Brazilian restruant in Chicago. Very trendy, very nice, probably will never go there again, very overpriced. But we had fun and got home at the late late our of 8:30pm. Wild woman I tell you.

Well that is my exciting life. Hope all are fine having fun. Thinking of you.:love2

[peanut]

Chele-you are a wild woman. I have absoluetely no willpower or desire to gout out partly because i dont fit into a damn thing! Supermum: do you or oyur husband have irratable bowel syndrome? I do and inherited it from my dad: im always going espec. when im stressed out. Make sure you keep jacob hydrated since hes losing elecotrolytes. We do have to do better next week.

I checked out all four volumes of sex and the city:im going to enjoy it after wrk tomorrow (yes, im going in on sunday). And i do tell my clients their idiots-probably not a good thing. I have to keep my mouth shut.


Talk to you all next week. NB refuses to let me do anything for myself!!!!!!:angel1

[supermum?]

Chele - you have to excuse my total ignorance of the geographic areas in the states but i didnt know you lived near Chicargo - is it freezing? (of course i only know of chicargo from Oprah) but i have always wanted to go there. must be hard playing with the kids outside in winter though!! i was a nanny in the UK after uni and it was hard always rugging up first before you went outside. of course we dont have that problem in brisbane. we have a pool we swim in in summer but even in winter you hardly need a jumper only morning and evenings.

xmen 2 was great. i loved it, thought it was better than the first but of course my dh and brother thought the first was better. apparently the characters werent as close to the cartoons for their liking. whatever!! but have you seen matrix 2? that is the best. its funny because my dh and i never get to go together anymore as someone has to stay home with the kids.

peanut - my dh hasnt got irritable bowel disgnosed but i wouldnt be surpirised if he had it as he has all the symptoms. really hope we can get to the bottom of it all. in 2 days off the losec i think the reflux is bad again - despite thickened feeds. he is driving me insane.

[peanut]

Is he not taking naps or is he just crying constantly? I have been very sporadic in giving the prilosec now because he seems to be doing ok-but maybe it takes the drug a while to clear the system and the reflux may be waiting in the wings. Try to take some time for yourself.

[chele]

hi ladies,
Supermum, no it isn't freezing here, now. It was up to 71 today.
It did suck though last november when Sammi was born and would cry all the time. It was too cold to take her out for walks. I really wanted to take her around the neighborhood but it snowed 12 days after she was born, so no walks for us. We did do some shopping a couple of times though. Had to get out of the house. Now that it is getting nice she loves going outside. She fell asleep in her swing today it was so cute. She hangs on to the rope so she doesn't sit back (as if to keep from falling asleep). The next thing you know her little head is leaning against the rope and she was sound asleep. I wish I had the camera with me.

Well better go.

[L&M's Mom]

HELP!!!

Has anyone else been either brave enough or stupid enough to take their high maintenance baby on a trip or vacation? I knew I should have e-mailed ya'll before we left.

We just went on a 4 day trip with both kids - what a mistake!! My little Logan, she would be the reflux baby (aka Demon child) did not handle it well. She wouldn't take a nap in the afternoon so our days were shot by 2 p.m. She screamed the rest of the day and night each night!!!!

We were so worried about it, we actually got a suite rather than a room so that she would have her own room. It didn't help!!! She really did not handle the change well at all. It was kinda sad for my 3 year old - it was a really neat place we went to with a lazy river you could raft around and a fake beach to play on. Thank goodness for my DH - he and my son played for hours while I stayed inside with the screamer. I felt really sorry for the people in the rooms next to us.

Ok - so I need some advice. Does anyone else have problems getting their baby to take afternoon naps? If so, do you have any tricks for me to try with her. The lady who keeps her has kept kids for over 20 years and says she fights sleep harder than any other baby she has ever watched. She won't take a pacifier, won't let you rock her and, for some reason, won't go down in her bed, though she does at night. UGHHHH!!!!


Mom2 - sorry your little one is not gaining much. You might make sure that your pedi checks her iron level through a blood test. Sometimes a lack of weight gain can be indicative of low iron. It is really important that our litttle ones get enough iron - helps their brain grow. If her iron level is low, it is soo easy to handle with iron drops. Maybe she is just going to be a petite beauty like her mom!!!

Supermom - My boy got diaper rash at the drop of a hat. The lady who kept him recommended medicated vasoline. I can't tell you how well that works. Cleared it up in one or two diaper changes. It is hard to find - you may have to order it over an internet pharmacy. The other thing I did with him was patting browned flour on his butt. Now I know that sounds weird but it really works. Apparently, my grandmother used that on her kids. You brown flour in a skillet, preferably a cast-iron one if you have it. Then put it in a thin cloth, like a cloth diaper and tie it up. YOu can then pat it on your baby's tush. It also worked wonders for Matthew. Can't tell you why. We still use it when he thinks he has a boo-boo on his hiney. He calls it his "All Better." Matthew also brought every virus home from daycare and passed it on to me. Good luck - it is hard to cope with. My most horrible story deals with a trip to the grocery store to get Pedialyte for him - we just made it in the front doors, you know, right in front of all of the check out stands - and he spewed. It was HORRIBLE. Thank goodness, there was a really nice man working who told me not to worry about it so I did a u-turn and went straight home without the Pedialyte. Never tried that again - the dh got to go to the store all the other times.

For the stomach cramps, I have heard several moms say they give their baby Levsid (I think). It is an anti-spasmodic I think. Those moms have raved about it. You might try that. Good luck!!!

Hope everyone is having a better weekend than I had. Hopefully, noone else was brave enough to try a road trip.

[peanut]

Sorry L & M that your vacation didnt go well. NB NEVER takes a nap for me during the day and he is a horror to deal with when im not working. The dad didnt take him this weekend until Sunday and i was about to go bonkers. Not only does NB not go down for a single nap with me (he does with everyone else) if i divert my attention even for a second, hes wailing from the top of his lungs. I ccant stand it. Maybe i am only good as a part time mom. When i drove him to his dads yesterday, it was nonstop howling in the car. I had had enough and I started yelling for him to shut up-----i am so eveil! He was so scared he tried to hide under his blankie. What a terribloe mother i am. I just get so frustrated and drained because i just want a second to myslef (to clean, go to the bathroom, shower) and its always a struggle. He resists sleep and he fights to keep his eyes open. I cant go back on the antidrepressant b/c of the hair loss and im having such a hard time keeping my anger under control......I feel like ive taken 20 steps backwards and i am so ashamed and guilty-im nauseated by my own reactions.

[supermum?]

L & M's mom - thanks for the words. sorry about your holiday. no advice as mine wasnt too bad. but he wont even sleep in the pram if we go out for the day so i can imagine how bad it was. lets hope they get better as they get older. i know what you mean about the other child missing out. i feel like i am always telling zac that we cant do things as jacon needs to have a nap or is not well etc etc. i use that antispasmodic and it does help but he obviously has bigger problems. we have got an appointment with the ped GI in a month so hopefully that helps. in the meantime the diahrea continues.

peanut - you are not evil at all. i have been so annoyed with jacob during this last episide of screaming all the time so i know how you feel. parenting is hard that's all and grayson will be no worse off from your occasional yelling at him. as for not taking the antidepressants, have you heard of the herd St John's Wort? it acts as an antidepressant and i have known many people who use it instead of medication. it may not work quite as well but it will certainly help. why dont you give it a go. when my dh uses it i can certainly tell the difference. he has more tolerance, less stressed and the little things (including kids) dont bother him as much. please give it a go.

chele - how is work lovely? hope all is well.

[Renee22]

Hey everyone

I am back. So much to catch up on.

Peanut & Supermum, I have tried St John's Wort and it does have a calming effect.

Peanut, have you tried to turn on the white noise for NB to calm him? There are a lot of types of noises (besides hair dryer and vacuum) like cricket sounds, waterfalls etc. U are not evil, I cant take a screaming baby too, it'll drive me bonkers!;)

Supermum, Hope Jacob has recovered from his fall.;)

L&M's Mom, I ahve not taken DS for a holiday 'cos I worry about everything even before I decide on a trip like whether the water is suitable (not all places in Asia have safe drinking water from the tap) which is my top concern. On top of it, I cant imagine lugging 2 tins of milk powder plus diapers amongst other stuff.:rolleyes:

Mom2, Hope Sophie's recovered from her rash and is doing fine.:D

[mom2]

Hi all,
I am hiding in my room praying that Sophie will settle down and go to sleep. We have been doing battle over afternoon naps. She still goes down great in the morning but the afternoon is a very different story. She usually cries for about 20 or 30 minutes and then might go to sleep for about 20 minutes. When she gets up she is CRANKY until bedtime. She also winds up waking up her brother from his nap so I have not been a happy camper. I have tried putting her down earlier, later and feeding her at different times but nothing seems to work. The ped. also said she should be sleeping at least an hour in the afternoon and that I should just keep trying--easy for her to say!

Peanut, You and I sound like we are in a similar place right now. I have been so angry and depressed lately. I feel like my life is completely out of control and there is no time for me. I have been feeling very resentful towards Sophie and then I feel horribly guilty when she flashes me her beautiful smile. We definitely have more good times together now so I don't know what my problem is. Part of it is that I really feel like everything is so darn hard with her and she doesn't enjoy doing "normal" baby things. Mealtime is a disaster. She grunts and shrieks through the whole thing and I am totally stressed by the time she is finished. She won't let me out of her sight and doesn't want dh to do anything like feed her or change her. I had so much fun with my son and I am angry my experience with her has been so up and down and downright awful at times. So don't feel like you are a horrible mom--we are feel bad at times.

Chele, Sophie eats like a horse!! She has cereal and at least one jar of stage 2 fruit for breakfast, lunch is 1/2 jar of meat, 1 jar of stage 1 potatoes, 1/2 jar of a different veg and usually 1 jar of fruit, dinner is cereal, the remaining meat, a veg and a fruit. She breastfeeds with me four times a day, sometimes five. When she wakes up, before her am nap, around 3:30 and then before bed. Why she is in the 5th percentile I don't know!! This is way more than her brother ever ate and he was always 95th or above. As far as vegs go she can't take any of the yellow vegs except carrots and green beans give her horrible gas. She is eating almost all stage 2 foods now but I haven't introduced the "dinners" again since she got that rash so basically she is eating the same kinds of food just in bigger jars--Make sense?!!

L &M's mom--a vacation?!!! We just took Sophie to the grocery store for the first time. I kid you not! You are a brave woman. My dh still has this fantasy that we can ry and roadtrip to WI this summer--yeah right!Four days in a car--I don't think so!
Well she is wailing gotta go. Supermum and Renee I will touch base next time! Take care.

[supermum?]

Peanut & mom2 - i may be completely off base here but the way acob was over those 3 days without Losec (reflux meds) was exactly like Grayson and sophie sound. i know that Peanut you dont always give Grayson his meds and i cant remember what sophie id on but Peanut i think its worth trying to give it to him consistently (or possibly even a greater dose) to see how he responds. Jacob was clingy, wanted to be held all the time, wouldnt sleep in the day, cried a lot, generally hard work. but once back on the losec he improved. it may be that the meds need to be increased as he is actually on double the dosage we were origainally told. just a thought, but you really cant imagine the difference it has made. I know what you guys are going through, you in particuular mom2 with another child at home. i am still finding it hard at 8 months. cant wait till things get easier.

to all my other friends - hope you are happy and healthy.

[L&M's Mom]

Supermum - what kind of formula is Jacob on?

Peanut - I'm sorry your weekend was so bad. I try to keep a positive outlook by saying that as long as Logan sleeps at night, I'll deal with the daytime fits. However, it really doesn't make it any easier. Don't feel like a bad mom. I'm sure everyone in that resort thought I was a horrible mom since Logan screamed nonstop for hours. Oh, well, you can't appreciate it until you have lived it. You might try the St. John's Wort. My secretary used to take it and it helped her. Also, I'm sure you have tried this but establishing a routine for our high maintenance babies can help. Have you tried any type of toy in the bed with lights and music to distract nb when you put him down for a nap?

Mom2 - NOOOOOO, not a road trip. You'll either end up divorced or your child will be orphaned. We drove for 4 1/2 hours each way. The way there was at night so she slept the whole way. The way home was during the day. Now, my common response is "What, I can't hear you. My ears are still ringing from this weekend!"

Renee22 - you can't imagine how much crap you have to haul around for a trip. The bellhop laughed at us - and none of it helped.

Hope everyone has a terrific week.

[supermum?]

L&M's Mom - we have a special reflux formula here that is thickened plus i add rice cereal as well (his reflux must be really bad with a high dose med as well). i have tried soy but he was really bad. i have heard that it can be bad for colic babies. they are testing for intolerances today so i will let you all know the results.

Peanut - its official, we all agree you should try the St John's Wort. so please please give it a go and tell me how you feel. it should have made a slight difference in about a week. also, agree with a routine for fussy babies. with jacob he sleeps at all times so we cant be strict with that but i now that he doesnt like being rapped i always put a blanket across his face (of course he can still breathe its on the side) but it seems to comfort him. we used to have to hold him down while he struggled which seemed mean but he always fought sleep. now he is quite a bit better -- except when he is off the meds of course. also, TRY TO KEEP UP THE MEDS< MIGHT EVEN NEED AN INCREASE. i am soooo bossy arent I?? but its only cause i care.:love2

[mom2]

Hi everyone,
Hope things are improving as the week rolls on.

Supermum, I think you may be right about the meds. Sophie has her appt on Thursday with the specialist and I will be interested to see what he says about her mood lately. Last time he did increase her dosage by a small amount. I know my husband thinks she should be coming off of it soon but I don't agree. He isn't with her everyday. Maybe when she starts crawling and doesn't spend as much time on her back. Even though she is rolling and creeping she still lays on her back to play and sleep. Sophie and Jacob must be pretty close in age. Sophie was born Oct 15--how about Jacob? I can't believe he is cruising around already!!!I am glad he is feeling better. Hopefully you are feeling a bit better too if he is happier. I'll be interested to hear about the tests for intolerances. What did yo have done? Oh, one more question, Was Jacob waking up real early before you had his meds increased? Sophie has started waking at 6:30 am the last week and she had been consistently sleeping until 7-7:30 am.

L&M's mom--Where in Texas are you again? Where did you vacation? We are in San Antonio. Yeah, I think (I know!) the trip to WI is just wishful thinking. We both really miss our families and want our kids to get to know their cousins and aunts and uncles and see their grandparents more often. I know what you mean about feeling like you should almost be grateful that Logan sleeps through and be able to deal with the hard days but it really doesn't help. I feel the same way. I think, "well at least she sleeps at night and takes a morning nap" that is really good but when she is being a terror when she is up I tend to not think too rationally!

One question about the St. John's Wort. Is it safe if you are breastfeeding? I might give it a try myself. I have been so up and down lately--feeling real blue one minute and then happy the next. It is getting tiring!

Well, it is off to snooze land for me.

[Renee22]

Over here, we have a few brands of special thickened formula for reflux (I use FRISOVOM and also add rice cereal). Why is it that the U.S. does not have this type of thickened formula - do the Americans only thicken the formula with cereals? Please check with the doctor to confirm.:D

[peanut]

Ok-Ill try it you guys! You know, maybe you are right about the meds. Today he was crying all day from what the nanny said so ill go back to being consistent with the prilosec. The asshhoooo never got me a refill so thats anoth g-- damned thing i have to do.

Ill keep you posted. Hang in there Mom2: lets try to get over this hump. xoxox kisses and hugs to all and babies

[chele]

Wow, where have I been, it seemed like I missed a lot. You guys have been busy.

I think sammi has been reading how the older kids here are acting and decided to join the fun. She has really started to fight sleeping and it is driving me crazy cuz I know she can be a good sleeper. Yesterday we had a total of 7 1/2 hours of sleep, and that is not consecutive. Last night she slept 6 hours which gave me 4 1/2 hours, I am expecting to get cranky any minute. I had to be at work by 6:30 this morning so no going back to sleep for me. Oh well. It only makes us tougher right?! Anyway, she is having really weird poops lately and has increased to about 4-5 a day and they smell so bad I almost throw-up. Thank goodness she goes to the gi today and the ped tomorrow. Hopefully my dh does a good job and finds out something. I am sure he will badger the dr.s into taking a serious look at her. We could not get her to sleep Monday night, she fussed and cried and fussed. Finally dh talked me into giving her tylenol, the minute it was in her mouth she fell asleep. I mean the minute. It looked like she barely had time to swallow it and she was a sleep. It couldn't have worked that fast. It was so weird, but of course she slept well that night from the tylenol.

Mom2- thanks for letting me know what Sophi is eating, maybe I am not feeding her enough. We are still doing about 6 - 7 bottles a day. Green beans are horrible. I felt so guilty for giving her so much pain. How is Sophi on pears? DH thinks pears are having the same effect as the green beans, but I never thought pears to be a gassy food. I don't know.

L&M - Sorry to hear you had a bad vacation. We haven't went on vacation, just to my Mom's which is a 5 hour drive, and my Dad's which is a 2 hour drive. We are very lucky cuz dd is a great car baby. When we went to mom's at New Years she slept almost the entire way!! And she sleeps all the way to my dad's to. She is tougher to handle at my dad's than mom's cuz mom has no problem holding her the entire time and working to get her to go to sleep for me. So that is like a real vacation for me. My dad isn't so responsive, but he is a man what can you expect. I know what you mean about taking it all including the kitchen sink. My brother laughed at me and asked how long were we staying a couple of months?

Hang in there peanut, I agree you have to do routine schedules on everything. Including for yourself. I know it seems impossible. I am having a lot of trouble keeping to them myself, but I have got to get Sammi on one again before I go crazy.

Renee - I don't know of any reflux formula here in the states. Or thickend formula. Only hypoalergenic which is now where close to thick, more like plain water than anything.

Well I better get to work

[Sherry Gray]

Hello All,
Boy was I surprised to find so many other people dealing with reflux. It also makes me happy to know I'm not alone!
Our baby girl is now 7 weeks old and has screamed since day one. At 2 weeks she had a 24 hour pH probe test done which is VERY invasive, but showed severe reflux. We tried Zantac for one week to no avail. Then, Prevacid ever since. She's on 100% Alimentum which she seems to like (she's gaining weight). All this and still screams to no end. So, took her to see specialist at Children's Hospital. Specialist says she is not fussy because of the reflux, but because she is over sensitive to stimulation and needs strict schedule and regulated environment. This means exact same time feed, play and sleep schedules always in the same place and same way. Talk about not having a life! But we are trying it. She seems to thrive on the schedule. She is still on the meds and Alimentum, so who knows what actually works. I'm told to hold out for the magical 12 weeks when she will supposedly get better.
I can relate to never being able to take my baby out and basically not having a life at all. I covet my friends with wonderful, happy babies who they drag all around with them.
One good thing: I'm told these fussy babies tend to have higher IQ's and grow up smarter because they are so intuned to everything around them. When I see my friends' babies, yes they are not screaming, but they look a little "out of it". I'd prefer to believe my baby will excel down the road -- If I can just get there!

[peanut]

If its not reflux, then how can the doctor justify the diagnosis to begin with? I also went to Childrens Hospital in California and have the best pediatric gi doctor. Today i put my son back on the prilosec and oh my god-----what a difference. Is prevacid the same compostion as prilosec? If not, maybe you could tell your doctor youd like to try it. Hang in there.


Hi Chele -You must be so tired!!! how many children did you say (the ratio) of children to adult in your daycare? I am really getting a little anxious about putting NB back in but i want to wait until he starts crying. His head is still flat and im wondering if thats because he spends too much time onhis back? Its not like the nanny or daycare person is going to hold him the whole time but my parents are freakilng me out about his skull---now they are saying maybe he needsw surgery. Thats what you get for having a dad who is a doctor but also a damned psychiatrist. What does he know about pediatrics???He has been doing a don of research on medline so every week it seems to be something they are afraid is defective with NB.

Workwise-the clients are yellling and being verbally abusive to me-i finally went in to talk to the partner and tell him so that he doesnt think its me. He basicaally is levaing up to my discretion on how to handle it. SO watch me get fired even though im doing a great job and generating alot of money.


Shout out to Mom2, Supermum and Renee: thinking of you always!!!

[L&M's Mom]

Mom2 - Oh my - I was right in your backyard. I live right outside of Dallas, work in downtown Dallas. We went to the Hyatt Hill Country. Isn't it great! We went last year with Matthew when he was two and had a blast!!!

Renee22 - we do have a pre-thickened formula. It is Enfamil AR. However, it is a milk-based formula so doesn't work for babies with milk or lactose intolerances. That is why I was wondering what you are using. Maybe your baby is allergic to milk or lactose, causing the diarrhea. Logan had horrible diarrhea on the Nutramigen.

Chele - so, how old is your baby. Mine is 5 months old and I'm trying to figure out what to feed when. I give her a half a jar of bananas with some cereal in the morning and 6-7 ounces of formula. At lunch, the sitter feeds her a jar of bananas and a jar of sweet potatoes and the formula. At night, I feed her a half jar of bananas and half jar of sweet potatoes with formula. She has 2-3 other bottles during the day. Yeah, she is a chunk but she sure is cute!!! So, what should I try after sweet potatoes? Am I feeding her too much. With Matthew, I fed him what he wanted basically.

Peanut - on the shape of nb's head, you shouldn't need surgery. They have those helmut type things that some drs will order to help re-shape the head. Surgery is soooo out there. My Matthew had a pretty good flat spot on his head from sleeping on his back and it has resolved over time. Tell your Dad to quit looking for problems - you already have enough to deal with and I bet he could be an awesome help with those problems. By the way, if he is a psychiatrist, can't he give you some advise on how to deal with your depression, stress and mood swings?

Hope all is going well for everyone!!

[peanut]

Hi L & M- ill have to ask the doctor about that helmut when we go in for our 6 month checkup in 3 weeks. As far as my dad, he doesnt beleive that antidepressants should be used for any length of time and that ultimately, it has to be up to me to make changes in my life, He is a big believer in behavior modification but he used to give me prescriptions and now he wont help me (like i have the time or money to see doctors). And my dad is a specialist in psychiatry (very smart) so it peeves me with the answers he gives to me.

[supermum?]

Hey guys

Peanut - great to hear that the meds are working for grayson. told you, i couldnt believe the difference when Jacob went off them. as for the head, Jacob has a flat spot on one side but i am confident he will grow into it. (sorry guys didnt reply earlier Jacob was born 9 sept.) actually there is a story in that, he was a caesar and i was booked on the 11th and everyone told me that was bad as it was such a sad day etc and luckily without me saying anything the hospital rescheduled.

L& M's mum - our only thickened formula is called AR caricare but like yours contains lactose. when we tried soy i used a thickener plus the rice cereal but i didnt like it. rice cereal worked better than the thickener. you would think they have more options out there.

i really need to think about the pear causing gas as Jacob has it every day. surely our problems couldnt be as simple as that?

[chele]

Hi all,
A quick run down on all the dr. apt.s : GI – things are looking good and he expects her reflux to be gone by 8 months. I don’t believe he thinks that it was ever bad because every time he sees her she lights up as if her best friend just walked in the room. Big smiles. He is very impressed with her weight gain 2lbs in 5 weeks. She is somewhere between 17 and 18lbs. Dh told him we were going to tape some of her episodes so he could see that she isn’t always the wonderful child her exhibits to the outside world. The ped was happy with her too. She had to get shots, poor little munchkin. She got drops for her eye because it still goos up and she wants to treat it with drops before going through surgery. She also said that she wakes up in the night and has trouble going back to sleep because separation anxiety is starting to set in. I found that very interesting. All in all very good report I feel.


L&M, you might be giving dd to much bananas I give Sammi mostly apples and bananas when things get runny. She is 7 month old next week. Sweet potatoes to will harden things up back there, but don’t seem to produce too much gas. We started on carrots to squash to sweet potatoes to apples to bananas to green beans to pears. We went to the gi yesterday and he thinks she needs to be on meats for the proteins. He asked dh why started foods the way we did – yellow veggies first, why not with meats, dh had no idea why, I said cuz that is what all the books, websites, documentation that I have read said. I think I should be giving her more food during the day but I am afraid how much weight she will gain, I know that is kind of stupid, as long as she is healthy, but you get tired of hearing look at that chunky baby, even if they call her a “cute chunky baby”. Totally irrational and I will start feeding her more, now that I have heard that she should have more.


Supermum – I am not kidding, Sammi is taking direction from Jacob. She is pulling herself up already and when she went to the ped today, she told dh that she has a fungus on her bum. Now I am just waiting for all the head banging to begin. I was really kinda sad today, cuz I couldn’t go to the ped with her. Isn’t that crazy, she was getting shots. Who wants to be around for that, but I like to go and here things first hand instead of getting it all 2nd hand from dh. Well she should sleep well for the next couple of days since we are to give her Tylenol every 4-6 hours to keep the fevers at bay from the shots. Oh, I forgot, she is teething again. Top 2 this time. She gets to start biscuits too, I am so excited. I feel a little manic these days, kinda scary, but way better then the depression days. Hey wouldn’t it be great if pears were the problem. I hope they are and he starts feeling better quick.

Peanut – I am so glad you have put NB back on his meds regularly. It is hard to keep to the schedule but completely worth it. Are you still kind of keeping an eye out for openings else where that might be interesting for you? Just curious, I know there is no spare time for that stuff. I am supposed to be looking for a position closer to home but I am comfortable where I am, except for the commute. Hey if you get fired you can always collect unemployment for a while. Oh, as for the flat head is it in the middle of the head. When I went to one of those parenting classes before giving birth, I actually think it was the breast feeding class, the instructor said that you can switch ends of the crib every night or every so many days and that will keep the baby from getting a flat head, because the baby will always look toward the door. Now granted this is for normal babies I believe, because my baby doesn’t want to spend anymore time in her crib than necessary and never looks toward the door. Something to try though, I did try it, she always sleeps facing her right side no matter what way I put her. I really doubt he will need surgery, it isn’t like you are leaving him for 10 hours in the same position everyday. The ratio at daycare is 4 to one teacher. I know there is a couple out there with a 3 to one ratio but I really like the one she is in. They adore her there even the kids treat her like a queen. One little girl that gets to daycare as early as Sammi does sings to her everyday and calls her the most beautiful baby, queen of the babies room, Needless to say I adore that little girl. Hey how is the highchair going? Can he hold up his head by himself yet. If so I would put him in a saucer. It has been the best entertainment my dd has had. I love it, you can actually go to the bathroom by yourself and you know they are safe. I know Renee would say no way to young, but if he can hold up his head by himself he is ready for it. Is Bug and Bugette staying out of your way? You haven’t said much about them are they keeping a low profile? I hope so.

Mom2 – you are still breastfeeding? Wow, power to you baby. That is great, you are a very strong person and smart. I quit cuz I thought I was the source of all Sammi’s pain. You are the woman. Wish I would have stuck with it.

Hey Renee – hope all is well, you have been pretty quiet lately.
Well take care all.

[peanut]

Hi guys-

Chele: I cant believe all you go through with your daugter-dont feel guilty about not being at the docsshe knows shes loved. The flat spot is in the midle of his head. He still wobbles his head around, so is it too early for that saucer (is it the walker??), Also, have you tried the doorway jumper? Is NB still too young for that? It seems hes a little behind is growth because he still cant keep up his head for very long. Oh he sleeps on his stomach so i have a feeling the nanny keeps him on his back all day but at least he gets 10 hours on his stomach. Who wants the added stress of trying to look for a job on top of everything else!!!!! But i yelled at my friend who hired me b ecause she wouldnt return anyones calls and the receptionist, behind my back, put EVERYONES calls to me while i had 2 emergency motions and clients backlooged and waiting for me. I told everyone a piece of my mind so like i said, i probably wont have this job for much longer.

Hi Supermum: the buggettes are staying away. I had another yelling episode at the father because im so stressed at work, but things have settled back down again , Hes such a wimp-he wont fight with me!!!!! Hows Jacobl doing???? Can he turn his head 360 degrees? I somnetimes think NB is a reincarnation of Linda Blair.

Renee: hows the week going for you?

L&M and Mom2: how are yous guys????

[peanut]

p.s. Supermum: I see youre on line: are you working???? Someone might doc you in pay!!:D :D

[supermum?]

Peanut - dont forget, i work for the government. i can be slack sometimes....have called so many times for the results of jacob's lactose intolerance test. it drives me crazy. either not back yet or the doctor hasnt left a message. he probably doesnt have it but i hate the administrative crap. just tell me!!!! good to hear you are standing up for yourself. hopefully they will back down and start treating you better. hope you arent working too hard over the weekend. jacob was pretty early at doing everything, he rolled at 7 weeks and sat up by 41/2months but i think he is just determined to get around. i used the 'jolly jumper' we call it which is something you put in the doorways and they hang like a bungy, when he was quite young. but they should be able to hold there head up reasonably well first. do you give him tummy time in play cause that is supposed to help. also propping him up in the high chair will help. get him used to the fact that there's better things to do than lying on your back. but dont stress too much, all babies are different. and no falls this week - yeah!!

chele - has sammi's teeth come thru yet? jacob looks so cute with 2 front teeth and he loves being able to bite into food - he loves biscuits..
as for everyone else - i guess you are having a slack week. would love to hear from you all. have a great weekend.

[mom2]

Hey all,
Just have to vent!! Sophie is driving me NUTS!!!!!!!! She has been so cranky lately. I don't know if she is just going through normal separation anxiety or if her stomach is acting up and needs her meds adjusted again. We saw the ped. GI yesterday and he was no help whatsoever. Just keeps saying we will know when she is ready to come off of the meds. I am so tired of paying him for nothing!!!!! I think when I talk to her normal ped I will ask if she really thinks Sophie has to see him again. He never offers any info or advice just sits there and says she looks fine. I guess I am just really sick of all of this. I have had such a short fuse lately. I feel so bad for my son, sometimes he gets this look on his face almost like he is scared of me. It never used to be like that between us and it makes me mad that I don't have more time and energy for him.

We also got word that my brother-in-law and his wife are coming for July 4th. We get along great and it will be good to see them but I am feeling embarrassed about the house and neighborhood that we live in. They are both high-powered bankers and just bought a huge house in Ct for a ton of money and they are going to come visit us and we don't even have a guest room for them to stay in!! I know it shouldn't matter but it does. I am sick and tired of being the "poor relative".

See, I told you I needed to vent!!! Thanks for listening. She is up and wailing again. Take care, good weekends to all.

[chele]

oh Mom2 hang in there. Is it possible to get some you time this weekend, you really need it. Ask dh to take the kids to the park and let you take a relaxing bath or something. I hate to see you so distraught. Ask your ped if there is another GI dr he can refer you to. Try to find one that is helpful and talks to you. I got so lucky when I found our GI, I didn't even know it. I guess he is a really renouned(sp?) specialist. A nurse asked my dh how we got in with him. Dh replied "I donno." I just called and made an apt. How lucky is that. But really don't just settle cuz that is who the ped recommended. Don't get so down on where you live either. Their priorities are just different than yours not better. They got a big house, you have a loving family. I get the same way with one of my friends, she just bought this huge beautiful house on a lake, we have to move further from the city to get a house that we can afford that will hold all of us and our junk. She is buying all new furniture and I am wondering if I can't raid my parents house and they can buy new furniture. But we have a baby and she doesn't and there is a chance that I will get to be an at home mom in the future and when they have kids she can't because the mortgage is so big. So it isn't that you guys don't have what they have, it is different priorities and it is all good. They might be looking at what you have and are pretty jealous too. Hang in there, and cheer up please.

Hey peanut, I am with supermum on this, he needs to hold his head up reasonably well before putting him in the saucer.(it is the new walker - it doesn't go anywhere so the babies can't fall down steps and other dangerous things.) And I agree you should start setting him up in his highchair and do tummy time. these are all things I would think your nanny would be doing with NB. Sitting him up more will help his reflux too. I had a little NG tonight. I know Renee would not approve, sorry, but it was warm in the house and her lil bum is so bad I had to let her air it out for a while.

Supermum, so the bouncer helped strengthen Jacobs legs huh? My step sister said that it was bad on the knees. However I have not been able to find any documentation to go along with her findings. I don't know how it could be any worse than anyother jumpy toy. How is Jacob's tummy. Better now back on the med.

Hey, L& M how is everything? How are solids going for you?
Hey Renee, are you doing ok. Did you ever get to take your spa day?

[peanut]

Hi girls:


Chele: always the word of wisdom. I dont trust my nanny abecause most people are so lazy they will take the easiest way
out. I I am kindof looking forward to putting him back into daycare soon. NB and NG need to get together!

Mom2: Dont feel bad at all. My brother is also in the banking business in Manhattan and just bought a million dollar apt-he is Loaded and so successful-im considered the black sheep of the family and have never been able to live his accomplishments down. My parents dont want anyone to know im their daughter-lovely. But they are struggling to have kids and cant. SHes in her 40's and they are going to have to try in vitro. So Chele is right: although its wonderful to have money which also brings security, happiness is derived from the little things that dont cost money. Im trying to remind myself of that.

[mom2]

Hey gals,
Thanks so much Chele and Peanut for the kind words of support. My moods have been all over the place. If I didn't know better I would think I was pregnant again!!!!!Must just be PMS! You both are totally right. I have a beautiful family and I know my brother-in-law has wanted to start a family for years but his wife doesn't want to give up her lifestyle.
I took some time out for myself this weekend and it really helped. Went on a housewalk with my neighbor and we both ooohed and aaahed over the gorgeous homes. I did come home feeling inspired to get to work on our place.I also joined a gym. I am so excited to get back into exercising. It was a little hard to justify spending the money but both dh and I feel it will greatly reduce my stress and boost my self-image so it will be worth it. He will be done teaching after this coming week so it will be easier to find time to go.
I really appreciate my cyber friends--if that is what we could call each other. Sounds so impersonal though. Man, you all have been great. Don't know what I would do without all of you!!
I have the kids myself for Monday and Tuesday (wish me luck). So I may not be back until Wed. Take care all, hope your wekend was great!

PS Sophie took 1 1/1 hour afternoon naps on Sat and Sun while dh was watching her--wouldn't you know it!!!! She's such a cutie--no hair or teeth but all smiles again. Whatever was bothering her seems to have passed for now.

[peanut]

Well Mom2-we must be cycling with that special time of month-yeah!!!!!!Good for you. Let me know how the gym males you feel so that maybe one day ill get inspired to go back. Im sitting hear eating a bag of chips as we talk., I have gained 5 lbs back!!!!

So glad Sophie is doing better;You sound so spirited right now, i love it. Have a great next few days in case we dont taLK!!!

[Renee22]

Hi All, I am back. I have been busy at work. DS went for his vaccination on Friday and developed a fever for 2 days. He has started this habit of spitting and playing with his saliva. Whenever we gave him panadol for his fever, he would spit it all out!:rolleyes: He also drove me nuts yesterday becos when I fed him cereal, he spat it out too and instead of drinking water, he would leave it in his mouth to play with it and then spit it out. I actually spanked him for this!:mad:

Hey, I have seen the saucer on the internet and it looks so interesting that I am considering buying one for DS except that it is expensive here (Evenflo brand). Walkers are more popular here as they are cheaper.

Mom2 Hang in there! Good to hear you joined a gym - you can vent all your frustrations there! ;) Hope Sophie's food allergy is under control.

Peanut, you dont have to live up to anyone's expectations, just be true to yourself and be a good mother to NB. :D

Supermum Nice to hear Jacob's fine.

Chele your DD seems to have a good weight gain. My DS only put on 300g the past month, can you believe it? I am just so disappointed with his poor weight gain. Last month, he only put on 200g! he does not eat a lot but his growth is obvious, its just his weight. A lot of people commented that he is of a good size and is very well taken care of, so I should not be complaining. :D

L&M's Mom, DS does not have diarrhea, only constipation and that was why he was on FRISOVOM (high fibre thickened formula for vomitting, constipated and colicky infants). It's all under control now.

Below is a link to a food chart which may interest you. It shows the nutritional value to different foods and what type to start at which month.
http://www.mommytips.com/Infants/foodchart.htm

xoxoxoxo to all!

[peanut]

Renee: Dont waste your money. NB hates the saucer and cries hysterically., same with the Johnny Jumper!!!! Today I decided to take my day off instead of working and NB has been such a nightmare. Noone can believe this 5 1/2 month old wont NAP!!!I am so frustrated and tired of him. He only wants to be held by momma-it drives me nuts. Then when he goes down to sleep at night it always has to be with Dr. Karps cd. Thank god for him. I just hate being with him---nothing makes him happy. He cried hysterically until we got to my moms and he settled down a bit but was at it right when we got home. He cried when i took him out in the stroller. What the heck am i supposed to do with this thing??? I hope NB doesnt get into the spitting mode. Its enough he pees on me all the time and thinks it funny. Does any of this sound familiar to you???

[L&M's Mom]

Peanut - the next time you take a day off of work, take it off for you. Go ahead and take nb to the sitters so that you can rest, relax, shop or do whatever you want without interruption. And tell the office you will be out of town so that they won't call you. You have to take some time for yourself - it is very important.

Mom2 - I'm sorry things have been so hard for you. My job helps keep things in focus for me. I represent physicians in medical malpractice cases and I have about 6 brain damaged baby cases right now. I get videos showing "A day in the life" of these babies all the time and boy, will that ever put things in a different light!!! Though I rant and rave and scream and have my little breakdowns like everyone does on this site, at the end, I think, at least she is essentially healthy, happy and will be able to say "I love you" one of these days. Many of the babies in my cases will never even be able to smile. Anyway, gosh, how did I get into such a depressing discussion. Keep your head up. Money doesn't make you happy - not like family does. Just remember what you felt like when you saw that first smile or saw your baby roll over for the first time and realize that those moments are going to come often for the rest of your life with your baby!!

Sorry - wanted to say hello to everyone else but the screamer is at it. Must go.

Hope you all have a good week. Chat at you later...

[supermum?]

Hello there ladies

Mom2 - i know exactly how you feel. but i also believe in the saying 'what doesnt kill us makes us stronger'. and i think that what makes us amazing people is how we respond to situations. my dh lost his job sept last year, a week before jacob was born. he got a job before xmas and had to move to another state while we stayed here but it didnt work out. he is still looking for work and we are running out of money - fast. but i am so impressed by how we are handling it all and we are much closer as a family. and as hard as it is with Jacob (who by the way had me up for 2 hours last night with tummy pains) i get more help from dh this baby than i ever did with zac. al in all, i have changed from being money and work focussed to appreciating the little things. i guess the point is that its up to us to make the best of this time and get through it any way we can because at the end of it we will look back and it will define us. i think that you are taking that step now and you guys will get there together too. i started my diet on 1 june - this time i am sticking with it. so lets work together and keep each other motivated.

Peanut - i know how hard it is. honestly, it probably will be till he is one. it will change but once he is walking around and mobile it will get easier. are you sure his meds are strong enough? cause that is how jacob was off the meds. agree you should take a day to yourself and NOT WORK.

to all my other wonderfully strong friends, thanks for posting all the time. it really inspires me and makes me feel like i have a network of friends who care.

did i tell you guys we got back the results to Jacobs tests and he isnt lactose intolerant? didnt think he was but at least it would have been an answer.

hugs to all.

[chele]

Hi all,

Supermum, see once again you were right, and to think you thought you were a bad mom. goofy woman. Glad Jacob is doing better. Question: have you started him on yogurt, or whole milk or anything like that? Just curious.

Hey Peanut, I have been thinking about your daycare situation. When you go and talk to the daycare (recommend during the day while kids are there so you can see the kaos first hand - they all have kaos) ask if you can try them out for a day and how much would it be? I think it is usually free to try them out. Some might only alow a 1/2 day but it is something to find out. That is what my daycare let us do. Just an idea.

Mom2 how are you doing. I am glad you got out on your own last weekend. Hang in there, we are here for you.

Hi Renee, the saucer was great for us, but Sammi always liked to stand up. When ever we held her on our lap she always wanted to stand up for as long as I can remember. There are cheaper ones out there. The evenflo is expensive, that is the one we bought, and it was very pricey. Check your discount stores, there are ones out there about 50% cheaper. They are only in it until they can walk so it is something to consider. I think they are saying "that the saucer is the NEW walker" Here they don't recomend walkers at all because too many kids have gotten hurt in them because of stairs and parents forgetting to keep close eye on the kids. I have also read that a walker slows down the walking process, don't know if that is true, just what I read once.

Oh something I was told tonight that I found very interesting and wanted to share. Another reason why tummy time is so important. I took dd to the Chiropracter tonight, she has been going since 2 weeks old, trying to improve her colic. Anyway, she was telling me that when a baby is born, their spine is in the shape of a "C" from being in the fetal position for nine months, and them doing their tummy time and pusing up learning to crawl develops the curves in their neck and lumbar area. That is how we end up with the shape of the spine the way it is. I don't know maybe not so interesting, but it is another reason to do tummy time.

Take care all and type to you soon.

[Renee22]

Peanut, NB may be sensitive to you or something in the house just dont fit him since he always cries when he is with you and is OK elsewhere. Do you always have perfume on or some perfumed talc? Or is there a particular smell in your home (or coming from your neighbours')? Or is there some particular item in the house upsetting him? Just curious becos some people are so allergic to smells (they get terrible headache) or sensitive to the surrounding. Perhaps you may want to take note of these things - however, they are just my suggestions.;)

Chele, over here they also have warned about the dangers of the walker and the accidents that happen. We have a playpen at my mom-in-law's which we will use soon but we still need something like a walker to put him in it and not let him lay on his back the whole time. :cool: He still cannot sit up by himself yet.

Got to get back to work. Will catch up with with the rest of you later.:D

[supermum?]

Chele - tried yoghurt and he LOVES it but it gives him diarreah and no milk till over 12 months. they gave him some baked beans with veges at child care on friday and during the night he cried for nearly 2 hours with pains. no more beans for him. but he loves sandwiches, toast, hates veges, likes rice cerealw with puree fruit, loves fruit as long as its in pieces he can chew on. he has meat mixed with veges but only the type that comes in jars as i am not really into pureeing meat. i think he will eat better when he gets a few more teeth and can use his fingers to eat chunky pieces. have you found the chiropractor good? i have often thought of giving it a try and someone recommended an osteopath but i have never used them.
mom2 - i have actually taken the kids for walks the last 2 days for exercise. back at work today but hopefullyi can keep it up. havent broken my diet yet. so far so good. how are you going?
hi peanut, how are things with you?
hi renee! have you tried propping dh up in a high chair so he can look around a bit more? i think the walkers (that dont actually have wheels) are great as its a good entertaining safe place to give them some play time before they are active.

speaking of active Jacob is so full on. i like to give him time just crawling around but he is into everything. heads for the bathroom and kitchen and our house just isnt as kid friendly these days as we were so long between babies. i guess it will only get worse when he can walk. and he doesnt respond to NO yet so you have to physically drag him away from things. cant wait till he can communicate more with us.

[peanut]

Supermum: you are soooo lucky hes started crawling-im waiting and waiting. Right now he can roll over like a sausage on my bed but then cant figure out how to get up. Oh-my nanny figured out that I had the saucer on too high (his feet were dangling) so she lowered it (ok i am not a rocket scientist and it took me almost two hours to put the damn thing together!!!) .WHen his feet were touching he seemed alot happier. I bought the evenflow but i am not happy that NB is able to lift the tools right out of the tray (im too tired to take it back nor do i want to try to). SO at least for a while its a diversion.

Renee: thats an interesting thought. I just figured my son hates me and ill deal with it. Heres something youll appreciate: i thought it was strange that the gi didnt make a follow up (because i do need to check the dosage ) buit the asshooo said there wasnt one. I come home only to find there was one scheduled and there is no way i can make it. It takes weeks to get into this doctor. I ask the idiot to do one thing and he is completely incompetent!!!!

Oh-i went off on the secretary today (even though shes pregnant) I will not let anyone use that as an excuse to treat me dispresctfully. I would rather get fired than have someone treat me like dirt-i let everything out today (can we say pink slip????). Oh well=for what im getting paid, i could get out of the profession and try something else. This is not the quality of life i bargained for.

Ok-venting again. Mom2 and SUpermum: im so jealous you guys are going to be skinny minnies and i am eating donuts, chips and regular soda. I wont step on a scale-my own reflux now is horrendous!!!!


Hope this week improves. Have a good week all:angel1

[chele]

Hi Supermum - my chiro is the best. She started seeing sammi at 2 weeks and we are down to going once every 3 months. Sammi has only been sick that one time, when she had the flu, and she seems to be one of the happiest babies I have ever met, especially considering she has reflux. I don't really know how to go about finding a good chiro, other than you need to talk to the dr. and ask questions on their beliefs and experiences. Mine had a mandatory class you had to attend before she would treat you. It basically was a run down of her schooling and experience, what her philosopy was and other things she was involved in, i.e., working on kids and babies, vitamins supplements, and now she has gotten in to adjusting animals too. It sounds quirky I know, but my husband has met some people who work in her industry and when he mentions her name they always praise her work. Make sure if you take your boys to one you really do some research on the dr. and make sure he/she has worked on children before, don't let your kids be the first. I can tell you this, anything this dr. has ever done with Sammi has been non-invasive. It has really only been rubbing up the spine a slight pressure. I have never heard a little bone crack at all. I had to look up what a osteopath was, they sound like they follow the simillar beliefs. Alls I can say, is I believe they are working for us. Before I was going to the chiro regularly, I had really bad headaches, and always seemed to be fighting off a cold or "alergies". I went to her all through my pregnancy and didn't get sick once. And With sammi only being sick once in 7 months when she goes to a very populated daycare, I feel that it must be helping in some way. WEll I will quit blabbing now. I don't think it could hurt Jacob to see either one of these types of dr.s, especially since he had the fall at daycare. You might want to see one too for your migrains. It couldn't hurt.

[supermum?]

Chele - thanks for all the info, it is something to think about. people at work laugh at me because i am becoming more fluffy in my old age. since we went to this naturopath who is fantasic i am open to alternative medicines. and i have a very bad lower back which physio always tells me is from a weak stomach muscle but i remember having problems as a kid. maybe i need to find someone good to look at all of us. as long as its non invasive it cant hurt can it? when i was in hospital and jacob was 5 days old the screaming started at night and a really nice midwife said that she had taken her babies to this osteopath for their reflux/colic. i think it is similar to a chiropractor but non invasive whereas some chiropractors do crack bones etc. apparently its all about alignment? i might follow it up. except that i am so poor at the moment. dh has a job interview this afternoon so keep your fingers and toes crossed for us. i am so nervous that it wont work out for him when i know he would be great in the job.
Peanut, enee & mom 2 - hello, and kisses to your beautiful babies. hope everyone is well and looking after themselves.

[Renee22]

Hi all, just want to tell you that DS has stopped the habit of spitting but is still playing with his saliva. Yesterday, when mom-in-law put the bib on for him to prepare for his cereal feed, he started crying hysterically even before she could lift the spoon to his mouth!:rolleyes: She ended up giving him his regular milk (I now add cereals in all his milk feed). :D

Hi Supermum, how did the job interview go? Hope DH secures a job soon. I know what its like to be broke. My DH does not contribute to the home and I am left to pay the mortgage and household expenses all on my own. I have a very weak lower back at the waist ever since I gave birth and I cannot even carry DS for more than 10 minutes without feeling the pain. I am thinking of doing pilates to strengthen the muscles. Hope Jacob is doing well at the daycare.;)

Hi Peanut, do you have a cat at home or did the previous tenant have a cat in the apartment or is there a cat that you always like to touch or carry? I am asking becos some people seem to be very allergic to cat fur and saliva. Cat saliva can cause asthma and breathing problems in both children and adult. I am trying to point a finger as to why NB cries so much when he is with you. I dont think he is allergic or sensitive to you, its just something in the home or something on you (deodorant, body lotion?) that is making him hysterical. Of course these are only my suspicions. Do u hang any paintings, portraits pics hanging on your wall at home? Is the furniture at home yours or the landlord¡¯s? This is very important as we do not know what happened in that house before you moved in. Hey, you should get a day off to yourself and relax at a spa with a good massage and facial!:puh

Hi Chele blondie, u must be having loads of fun unlike us brunettes. U are the lucky one with the helpful and supportive DH. The saucers aren¡¯t very popular here yet but my colleague told me the Graco one is on sale at abt USD71.00. Its very expensive over here. The non English educated and the old folks will still go for the conventional walkers.;)

Hi L&M¡¯s mom, it must be emotionally draining for you to look at brain damaged babies. Hope your little screamer is much calmer now.;)

Hi Mom2, hope your moods are more settled now and that Sophie is eating and sleeping well. How the gym going? Any encouraging results yet? Just come to us anytime whenever you have mood swings again. I tend to eat when I have mood swings so that explains for the weight gain. I have yet to lose the remaining 9 pounds of flab.:D

Stay cool everyone and xoxoxoxo to all and your darlings.:cool:

[peanut]

Renee: I have 10lbs to lose-why dont we try to motivate each other (w/o a gym!!!!!) and we can compete each week!!!!!! Just kidding although it would help with moral support, plus my 10 has turned into 13 by now. Do you think a walker is any more useful than a saucer? My friend told me that if NB doesnt learn to crawl but goes straight into walking, then he wont develop the mathematical side of his brain. But i saw in a book not to worry. Id this an old wives tale. God-I cant believe you have to stay with your husband and how much you do. I understand the relgious aspect to it but its such a shame. You deserve so much more and if there is one thing i am good at is knowing who the good people are. I find my gut is always right but then i ntry to use my brain and think otherwise. You are soooooo much better and entitled to sooooo much more. You deserve all the love, respect and hardowrk that you put out yourself.

As far as the allergies you knwo that is a very interesting point because the baby only cried hysterically with me or my mom (my mom is a very anxious person as well so maybe he was picking up on that) but she has my two persian cats. I wonder if i ask the leasing office if theyll tell me there were cats. You are always thinking. As far as perfum, well my mom and i both wear vanilla scented perfumes so that is another interesting concept ill have to look into it.

Hope the rest of you guys are ok-i had a horrendous day at work b/c i had to go to court and my case went beautifully. I cant believe it but the others i covered, the secretaries dropped the ball completely. So now im keeping a paper trail b/c rumour has it these girls are looking to see what i do wrong and then try to fire me. I wouldnt even know if they took a file out of my office considereing i have about 200 open files. Oh well: this is causing me too much stress: all of my teeth are pounding (mut be the grinding), i cant chew and my jaws are locking. Lovely. I hate to be chewed out in court esp when its not my work.

Tood a loo all................

[L&M's Mom]

Hey guys - I found another website with some interesting information. Following is the link on reflux meds for babies:

http://groups.msn.com/InfantGastricRefluxStoriesNZ/medicationupdate.msnw

Sounds like this is from Europe or maybe New Zealand?? but it gives a chart on dosages that, if you can convert your baby's weight to kilograms, will give you some indication of the dosages for Zantac and some other meds.

There are some other links there as well, like ones on foods for reflux babies. Lord knows I need help in that area.

Hope ya'll all are doing well.

L&M's Mom

[Kelli]

Peanut,

Read your posting where you mentioned the old wives' tale about crawling. My 6-year-old went straight to walking. We had heard that not crawling could cause problems so we tried everything to get her to crawl with no luck. She started walking at 10 1/2 months and didn't crawl at all until 13 months and then only because she thought it was funny. Anyway, she's finishing up kindergarten next week and is super bright. She's in the accelerated reading program at school and is great at math, so don't worry about the crawling thing. Also, Mitchell (almost 9 months now) isn't crawling at all, but will walk around (with us holding his hands) for as long as our backs hold out. He will actually fuss until we get him walking so looks like I've had another non-crawler :)

[peanut]

Thanks Kelli-thats good to knowand a relief. I bought a walker over the weekend but one that has no toys so he can try to concentrate on walking instead of playijg all the time. Well see what happens!

[supermum?]

Guys those links you provided have been really interesting. i nearly fell over when i read that reflux can cause sinus problems, constant runny nose and problems with enamel on teeth. they are describing Zac to a tee. i really had no idea. he was always having sinus infections and then that would lead to ear infections but we didnt go with meds for him cause the zantac didnt work. dont think they gave babies prilosec then. very interesting.

chele - what is your dose of prilosec for sammie? from the dose range on that table that L&M's mom posted Jacob is actually on a fairly low dose. i was thinking that maybe the reason he has become so bad at night is because he only has his dose in the morning and he might need more. he has been waking up squirming with either reflux or tummy pains. i had 3 hours sleep last night. i have had enough ia m so sick of this. why are other babies settled by now. he is 9 months today. and to make things worse dh didnt get the job. will it all ever end?

[mom2]

Hey all,
Supermum,
Sorry to hear about dh's job and the fact that things are still so rough.I know how you feel. Sophie is almost 8 months old and I never thought we would still be dealing with all of this. I am going to call her ped. and ask if she thinks we should increase her dosage. She is also getting real fussy and squirmy again. Sounds like Jacob is too. Sophie is on the lowest dosage possible for her weight (4 ml once a day). The last time we upped it a little it made a huge difference. I wanted to let you know that we switched giving it to her from in the morning to before her dinner because she was also getting restless at night. Just a thought and something to talk over with your ped.
To everyone else a big hello and I have been thinking of all of you. I am just so tired I usually read the posts but haven't been replying. I'll be back soon.

[peanut]

Supermum: First, happy birthday to Zac- You know, I havent checked the dosage site4 but NB is probably 17 lbs by now and is onoly 2ml of prilosec. We cant get in to see the gi until next month (as it is, this one isnt our normal gi but asshoooo never made the follow up and its a 3 mon) waiting list for my regular gi.

I am so sorry to hear about your husband-keep plugging away.. I have to believe things are meant for a reason.

As far as you being fed upi know Since yesterday, NB has been unbearable. Today the nanny said he didnt poop and cried alday. He is a very regular child )three poops a day) and it seems he has only a slight fever (he runs on the hot side as it is) but he didnt play, cried all day. etc. I will lose my marbles if i have to miss work this week.

Hand in there!!! Hugs to you.

[chele]

HI all,
Sorry haven't been around for a while. Went to Sin City(LasVegas) over the weekend for a wedding. Not my kind of city!!First time away from DD and didn't much care for that either. She was in the best hands though, so there wasn't much concern about her safety and health. She was with Nana and now she says nanananana, very cute.

Supermum, dd takes one ml, but I am not sure of the potency of it. I say that because the dr increased it, but we still only give her one ml., I asked the pharmacist about it and she said it was stronger but only needed the same dosage. She takes it twice a day though we give it once in the morning and once before her last feeding of the day. She has done really well on it this way. You can tell when we miss a dose because she starts throwing up alot again.

The poor little thing is teething and is having such a rough time of it. She is all congested and had a fever last night. she had a restless sleep but did sleep through the night. I had to get up twice and put orajel on her pacifier and she went back to sleep without fully waking up though. So that was good.

Hey Peanut, NB is about 5 months right?! Have you checked his gums to make sure he isn't teething? We started at 4 months and are on our second round at 7 months. This time is a lot tougher than the first time, but you might want to check and see. That could be the reason for the crankiness. Just a thought.

Hey all, have a good one.

[supermum?]

well my blood pressure is up with all the stress and even though i cant afford it io think i might leave work early and go have a massage. took jacob to the doctor yesterday as he has been so unsettled. sreams before sleeps, wakes after 10 minutes. will wake in the night and because he doesnt like being cuddled he squirms in my arms and cries for up to 2 hours before he falls back asleep. it feels harder than ever. the doc said that the 1 tablet of losec we give is all they give to adults so there is no room to move with that. and he has a viral infection which can act up the reflux. it just feels all too yard at the moment. we are going to the naturopath on the weekend and ped gi nect week for the first time so lets hope we get some answers. i know things could be so much worse but at the moment it just feels so unfair that it so hard. that's why i am so grateful to you guys cause i know i am not alone. although chele - sin city hey!! sound like a wild weekend. what kind of wedding does one have at sin city? hope you enjoyed the break.
peanut - as bad as i am feeling i cant imagine how hard it must be for you and i really admire you for working and looking after a challenging NB. my mum who is a school principal always says that intelligent and gifted kids are bad sleepers and when they get sick often get really sick as they are so sensitive to things. lets hope that our boys at least get the benefit of being really smart if they have to have it tough in these early years.

by the way, i've lost 3.5kg already. mom2 how are you going? let me know how you go at the ped. is sophie making sounds? jacob has just started crying out mama when he is sad and wants me. breaks my heart the little shit. cause he doesnt call out dada!!

hugs and kisses to all my friends.:puh

[Renee22]

Peanut, I also think NB could be teething. They will be more difficult during this period.

Chele, hope u enjoyed your trip.

Supermum, hope your home situation improves.

xoxoxoxo to all. Will be more detailed when I have more time to spare.:cool:

[mom2]

Hey there,
I am on my way to bed but had to check in with the gals!
Supermum, gosh, I hope things get better for you soon. I am so sorry things have been so hard lately. Congrats on the weight loss--good for you for sticking to it! I just started going to classes and swimming. I don't know if I have lost any weight but my stress level is way down and I feel so much better. I just have to keep at it.
Sophie is doing pretty well. I talked to the ped. and we agreed to try her on 5 ml of Prilosec for a week and see how she does. I sure wish we could be working on decreasing her dosage but I can't handle going back to her being fussy all of the time. She is working hard on crawling. She does this lunge/crawl thing that is so funny to watch. She has the most beautiful smile and sparkling blue eyes. Tonight, she crawled down the hall after me and let out a huge giggle when I turned around and saw her. It would be great if we always had this much fun together. I have to believe that day will come. She still doesn't have any teeth yet. It seemed like she was getting one about a month ago but it hasn't shown itself again.She has taken an afternoon nap the past two days--thank goodness. She was so out of sorts and fussy when she wasn't sleeping and I was going bonkers!
Well, I will check in again tomorrow. Hang in there Peanut and Supermum!

[peanut]

Allright-im just plain jealous!!!! (and bitchy right now). Supermum: yeayyyyy!!!!!!!!! For every lb you lose I must gain it from you. Well, NB is sick yet again and im sooooo sick myself. I got a viral infection and either gave it to NB or he gave it to me. It just never ends. I had to leave work one hour early and im so scared to do that because of all the drama in the office. You should see it-its like highschool all over.

I asked the doctor: DOES IT EWVER END/????????!!!!!. He thought I was being cute (yeah, right.) Now i know the prilosec amount i give NB isnt enough. Hes 6 months Chele and the most he can do is roll over like a sausage. I am so jealous that my kid seems to be behind on everything. I knopw what you mean about Vegas_ i did some trade shows there and I just think its plain tacky (plus i dont drink or gamble) So did you go to a bachelorette party???? Or hire a stripper (NB would have volunteered!!!). I think Sophie and NB get sick the most out of our little group here_ what do you think Supermum, Mom2 and Renee and L& M???

Lord give me strength to get through this week: i feel horrendous and want to crawl under my covers and have someone take care of me for a change!!!!

[peanut]

Oops: I stand do to be corrected: its cheles dd that im thinking of. I need to do a flow chart for all of us so i can keep track of all of our offspring.

[chele]

Hi all,
The wedding was really like a normal very nice wedding ceremony. The reception was short and sweet too. Very elegant actually. for the rest of the city - I don't gamble and that is what it is all about. It is really cool at night to walk downt the strip and see all the lights and hotels. If you go to lasvegas.com you can see some(all) of the hotels and the lights, it is pretty cool.

Supermum, congrats on the weight loss. I was down 5 lbs but found 3 of it after the weekend. I guess alcohol has calories in it. Who knew. It was my first time out with no responsibility in a year and a half. I did live it up that night. :party4 Now it is back to it.
Mom2, glad to hear Sophi is back to napping. Bet you can see sanity off in the distance now. Aren't they amazing the wonderful people they are becoming?
Peanut, feel better, please. Hopefully you can get NB on a better dosage or find out if he is allergic to something. Things should be getting better soon. Keep hanging in there. No bachelorette party, only a ladies brunch, which was with a bunch of ladies that I didn't know, but it was OK. I got to meet a bunch of women from all over the US so it was fun.
Hi L&M and Renee. Well I better get back to work.

[peanut]

Hi Guys-

ive been running 102 and still working-the dad came by after work and picked up NB to help me---at least hes been a good dad after all of this. Fathers day is going to suck. NB has had such a bad time-hes on antibiotics again and has a terrible cold. It breaks my heart. I have to be at work super early but I was made managing attorney!!!!So now everyone has to listen to me.....of course id love some more $$$$but later in time.

Im thinking of all of you and will check back in when im fully recuperated.

[supermum?]

Peanut - Well done, i am so proud of you. You are so amazing, despite this incredibly difficult time with a new job and sick baby, all on your own, you are excelling at your job and are being acknowledged. keep standing up for yourself and dont be afraid to ask for more money when you feel the time is right. dont wait too long either. 12 months time everything will be so much easier - i promise.
well Jacob has been so bad so i took him to the naturopath and begged him to see us. couldnt wait till the weekend. he does irridology which is looking at his eyes and said that he had a bowel infection, thrush in the bladder, intolerance which is causeing stomach spasms and gave me some herbal mixtures so it better help. he said that the infections were caused by the intolerance so it wouldnt always be picked up by doctors tests. anyway, it cant hurt to try this and then see what the specialist says next week.
hi chele, mom2, L&M's mom and Renee. guess everyone is pretty tired - or maybe we are running out of complaints or just sick of complaining about the same things? anyway, hope everyone is well and happy. take care all. xx

[Renee22]

Hey, have you noticed that Mom2 and myself have been promoted to SENIOR MEMBER?;)

[chele]

Renee, how does that happen? Mine said senior member to, but I didn't like it so I went in and changed it. I hope it is by number of months being a member and not by age, cuz I don't think any of us are senior;) How are things going? You have been very brief lately?

Peanut - Big Congrats and you thought they were going to fire you.!!!! Feel Better Soon.

Better go, Sammi is waking up. Take care all and hope to hear that everyone is doing well.

[L&M's Mom]

Hey Guys -

Hope ya'll all are doing well!! Congratulations Peanut! That is awesome!! It is nice to hear of someone standing up for themselves and then actually being rewarded afterwards.

So, I took Logan in for her check-up with the pedi GI. She has taken her off of the Carafate and increased her Zantac to 2cc's 2x/day. We'll see how that does. My chubby baby weighs 17 pounds, 15 ounces and she'll be 6 months next week. Can you believe it!!!

She has become terribly constipated. I am giving her, once a day, some prune/apple juice. I've been concerned about it having apple in it but I give her only 1-2 ounces mixed with water. She is getting lots of cereal. I also feed her pears, bananas, the orange veggies and am about to try squash. Don't know what else to do. If ya'll have suggestions, I'd love them.

She actually fell asleep drinking her juice tonight!!! I think my child is getting better. She will let me rock her to sleep sometimes, though not often.

I've been home with her some this week as her babysitter is on vacation. It has actually been great this time. It is nice to start realizing what everyone has been telling us. That they will get better and we will survive.

Supermum, mom2, renee22 and Chele, hope ya'll have a good weekend and things are looking up for ya'll. I know they are for Peanut, with her promotion!!! Plus, Peanut, our nb's are close to the same age so I have great hopes that yours will improve along the same schedule as mine.

Take care.

L&M's Mom

[chele]

L&M - that is great that Logan seems to be getting better. I am so happy for you. The only thing I can think of is to take her off bananas completely for the constipation. And try to get her to take some Karo dark syrup.

Yeah, there are some good things coming a head for all of us huh?

Have a good weekend all.

[peanut]

Hi Ladies- Thanks for the congrats-hope everyone is having/had a nice fathers day today.

L& M: I have no idea what NB weighs now but hes going in for his 6 mo tomorrow. My GI actually told me to stop giving him any type of solids because of the reflux so now im wondering Logan is so far advanced with her eating, NB will never catch up. If i try to give him cereal he make that face------i tried to give him some carrots a he only ate like 2 teaspooons (of course it seems most came out so im just approximateing),. How much does Logan it at any one time.

And remind me whats wrong with apple juice? I have a bottle sitting here.
iim stillsick and my equilibrium is shot, IOk-sorry this is so short.

Im still thinking of all

[L&M's Mom]

Actually, Peanut, I don't think NB is behind. My pedi GI told me to not start Logan on solids until she was 6 months old. I cheated. I started off with bananas and/or carrots. However, I switched to sweet potatoes because she seemed to like the taste. I tried her at 4.5 months and she didn't like any of it then. I tried again around 5 or 5.5 months.

In the morning, I started off by mixing 2 teaspoons of cereal with 2 baby spoons of bananas and some milk to a medium consistency. Gives it a good taste. You could also try pears. Apples are very acidic and are supposed to be tough on reflux babies. On the consistency, just experiment until you find what NB likes. With the sweet potatoes, mix a little cereal in it to give it some consistency to make it easier to eat. My Logan still doesn't eat right. She trys to suck it off the spoon rather than eating it, but, who cares, she likes it.

The carrots and sweet potatoes are so runny that adding the cereal helps get it in and keep it in baby's mouth so that they have a chance to eat it.

My GI said to start with the orange veggies. Give 1/2 jar in the a.m. and 1/2 jar in the p.m. Try each one for four days to check for allergies. Then go to the yellow veggies, then the green veggies, then the fruit. Again, I cheated and started with the fruit. However, I am only brave enough to try the pears and bananas. I'm worried about apples and peaches.

For juice for your NB, I'd highly recommend the white grape juice.

Don't worry about NB being behind. All babies do things at their own pace. My Matthew was 18 months before I could get him off the bottle and on a sippy cup. He simply didn't want it. It was actually his grandmother who got him switched over the weekend.

Also, though they reflux more when laying down, I can't recommend highly enough the tummy time for baby. Since Logan started sleeping in her bed and since I have started giving her tummy play time, she is developing so much quicker in everything. She has gotten rid of her lop-sidedness - she tilted her head real bad and I've actually had to take her to therapy. She can now push herself up and roll both ways. However, she was behind on all of that until I started giving her the tummy time.

Don't you worry about NB. He is wonderful and will amaze you for years to come. By the way, I know this from my 3 year old son. One of these days, you are going to wish that NB would cry for you to hold him again. You'll also wish you had more of that quiet time when you are feeding him his bottle. I know it doesn't help much now, but try to enjoy it if he lets you hold him without the constant screaming we are all so used to.

Take care all and have a good weekend.

By the way, thanks for the advice Chele. I have taken Logan off bananas. Poor thing, I made her eat prunes for lunch (1/3 jar). We'll see if that unstops her. I'm also trying to cut down on the cereal some.

Our change to Zantac 2x/day is not working well as of yet. During the middle of the day, she spits up constantly. I think she still needs that middle of the day dosage. I'm going to give it one week then call the GI about changing it back.

[chele]

Hi everyone, how is everything going? OK here. Fathers day was pretty good here. Yesterday was so busy, morning swim lesson, but had to be very careful cuz dd has ear infection, so put cotton in her ears and only got her wet up to her belly. She was so cute in her little swim suit. Then hair cut - for me, not sure I like it yet, and then we had pictures of the kids to get taken, and then I had a basket party at a friend's house, and home by 7pm. In time to put dd to bed. Not bad huh, I was exhausted today. Today we didn't do much other than go to brunch with dh's family. It was nice.

Hey peanut, don't worry about NB being behind, he is proabably just waiting to do it all at once, so you better start practicing not blinking.:) so you don't miss anything. and I think I said this before and I dont understand it, but our GI said we should have started her on protiens first. Of course it was a month after we had already started veggies and fruits, but that is what he said. My dd hates meats plain. she gives me this look when we give her plain meats with broth (stage1 foods) like "what is wrong with you woman, I am a kid not a cat". Anyway, they all seem to say something different.

Hi L&M, what are the yellow veggies? I missed them. Your dd does well on pears? They gave my dd terrible gas. I had never heard that about apples, I give them everyday and we are doing OK, kind of glad I didn't know about it, I would have no idea what to give my poor baby. She does OK with peaches too. But we have a milder case of reflux than everyone elses baby, I think. Have you tried prevacid or prolisec? Maybe Logan needs a different type of medication. I know that zantac has caused tummy pain, from other posts on this site, and it did for Sammi too. Just curious. I hope taking her off the bananas helps.

Well have to go have a great day all.

[supermum?]

Hi all
peanut - i will of course agree with my smart friends that you need not worry about NB, he isnt really behind at all. some are just faster but plenty at the same stage. i will also stress the tummy time is important though. zac hated hit but jacob loved it which is why i think he was rolling and moving so early. as for food, Jacob at 9 months still spits out the veges because he hates the taste but loves cereal with fruit. any kind. and chele, dont know about puree meat, sounds a bit revolting on its own. jacob seems to like things that he can feed himself, eg. hates mashed bababas but if i give a piece to feed himself he loves it. so i think he will be better when he gets his next lot of teeth and can eat more finger food.

we've had a really bad few weeks with no sleep so am looking forward to finding out what the ped gi says on thursday. will let you all know.

[L&M's Mom]

Hey Chele - the only yellow veggie I have found is squash. We are trying that now. I have tried to get the GI to switch Logan to prevacid but she is opposed to it. I'm going to call her back mid-week and bug her again about it. I'll also talk to my Pedi tomorrow - we go in for 6 month shots:(

Peanut - my Logan is not really laughing yet. She gives a slow little huh-huh type sound but that is it. So, verbally, sounds like NB is ahead.

Supermum - good luck at the GI. I hope they find something to help.

Everyone have a good week!!

[chele]

REal quick,
L&M - well I guess we got the yellow in then cuz I gave her squash(she likes a lot), but I thought it was an orange. The blond in me is really coming out these days. I am continually shocked and some of my ignorance and clumsiness. Oh well, hopefully it is just a phase that will pass soon.:D And I loved the huh-huh stage of laugh, I miss it now that she actually giggles. My dh would imitate it to get me to laugh in vegas, when we got back she didn't do it anymore. But I love the giggle too.

Supermum, the meats are totally revolting.

Well, i better get going. Hi everyone

[peanut]

Thanks L & M-ill try it tonight. Well today was supposed to be the 6 month shots but what a nightmare: i dont know why NB is so horrific after he gets back from his dads-what could it be??The only thing im thinking is his dad holds him 24 /7 and sleeps in the same room so when he gets back home to me-its cry, cry cry!!! What a nightmare today. I took him to the ped but she couldnt do shots because he got himself all worked up when she was trying to get the wax out-she still wasnt able to do it so we dont know if he still has the ear infection or not---He becamse so hysterical, the ped. even got fed up with him. I went home in a rage and started yelling at the dad to stop coddling him. Then my mom chimes in hed be better off with his dad---what a great start to the week. Supermum: let us all know how the gi goes. Take care everyone-im in a lousy mood.,lord knows i like nothing better than hanging out at the doctors on all my days off.

[mom2]

Hey Peanut,
Sorry you have been having such a rough go of it lately. I hope you are feeling a little better. Don't worry about the solids. My ped didn't even want Sophie to try them until she was at least 6 months and I think we started even a little later. She is having a tough time with the dinners so I just mix the veggies and meat together myself. So many of the dinners have tomato puree and onion powder and I think that is what is upsetting her stomach. Also, Nb will probably start to do everything at once like Sophie. I swear she went from falling over to sitting on her own in a matter of two days! It is so strange to see her sitting on the floor playing with toys. She is so tiny too that just makes it look funnier. Anyway, chin up and hang in there (our mantra!)
Chele, Try mixing the meat with potatoes. That is the only way Sophie will eat it. I give her half a jar mixed with a whole jar of stage 1 potatoes and a little fruit. She gobbles is up that way. We are trying desperately to get her to gain some weight and the ped said meats was the way to go.
Supermum, I sure hope the gi can help you and Jacob. This has been a long, hard stretch for both of you. You are in my thoughts.
Well, I am tuckered out so I will say so long and check back in tomorrow.

[Renee22]

Hi All am back, have been buried in my work lately. I have been reading your posts to keep myself updated.:cool:

Hey Peanut , Congratulations on your promotion! you may feel that NB is behind in certain ways, but I am sure he's ahead or at least ahead in other ways like he can already laugh with laughter.:D As for the shots, he should only get it when he is 100 per cent well. My DS did not get his 3rd month shots until almost 4th mth becos he was not drinking - they have to be well before they can take the shots.:love2

Hi L&M's mom , Logan seems to be doing great! At 17 pounds, its better than my DS who weighed only abt 15 and a half pounds at almost 6 months! It is very important to treat the constipation as it can make the colic worse. As I have mentioned many times before, DS is on Frisovom - the high fibre formula for reflux, colicky and constipated babies, so he does not have constipation at all - this formula is to be mixed with the regular one. I have in fact lessened the Frisovom amount. :D

Hi Chele , I remember u mentioned about bananas being a constipator, so I have refused to give that to DS. The only fruits he ever tried was apple, papaya and pear. I think we automatically became senior members after posting a certain number of posts. I feel like changing it to "Sexy & young Senior Member"! Please take care of DD's ear infection, becos I read that recurrent ear infections can lead to meningitis.:)

Hi mom2 I think I will try DS on meats soon. He has started on fish & fruits but mostly its instant cereals. DS is not tiny but somehow he is light. I always think that the weighing scales are faulty becos he actually looks much heavier than his 15 over pounds.:puh

Hi Supermum how was Jacob's visit to the naturopath? How's DH job hunt going? Things will definitely improve, just have to be patient. :;)

[L&M's Mom]

Hey ya'll -

I took Logan to the pedi this week for her 6 months shots. Boy, did her reflux flare up after that!!! The pedi said that her dose of Zantac at 2 cc's two times per day is pretty much maxed out. I don't know what we'll do next. Maybe they will finally switch her to Prevacid.

Do any of you have babies older than 6 months who have had to be switched from Zantac to another med because they have outgrown the Zantac or maxed out on it?

As for Logan's constipation, it is still not resolved but not quiet as bad. Poor thing, I have actually been feeding her Gerber prunes!! Can you think of anything more yucky:eek:

You know, she was spitting up alot last week after the change of dosage but now I'm not sure if it was that, or the squash. I quit feeding her the squash and she seems to be doing better. Who knows...:conf2

(Can ya'll tell - I've finally gotten the hang of inserting the smilies!)

Hope everyone has a good weekend! We're going to see the Eagles tonight! Yeah - a night away from the kids.

L&M's Mom